Right, so why are we limiting a Part 135 pilot to a 14-hr duty day?

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Author: You doing exactly what you're Date: 4/6/2023 4:18:48 PM +0/-0 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

arguing:

"we don't make a decision to do or not do something based on a remote eventuality, especially when it will little or no meaningful effect."

We've made a reglatory decision to limit a pilot's duty day to 14 hrs based on a remote eventuality!

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EMS Cockpit Recorders +11/-16 Why not 4/5/2023 2:16:24 AM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-1 Metro has them. 4/5/2023 4:03:54 AM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-0 LakeLOOn 4/5/2023 8:04:37 AM

EMS Cockpit Recorders - How about vid record (NT) +5/-0 The Medcrew in the back? 4/5/2023 8:05:03 AM

EMS flies under same Part 135 regs. Which FAR are you referring to (NT) +1/-0 that you think separates you from them? 4/5/2023 10:01:57 AM

EMS flies under same Part 135 regs. Which FAR are you referring to +2/-3 You have no clue 4/5/2023 10:47:39 AM

so, 2hen you become civil again, what FAR are you referring to (NT) +1/-0 that sets you apart from EMS? 4/5/2023 12:16:29 PM

so, 2hen you become civil again, what FAR are you referring to +1/-1 It’s not 4/5/2023 12:29:23 PM

so, 2hen you become civil again, what FAR are you referring to +0/-0 HUH 4/5/2023 12:39:39 PM

so, 2hen you become civil again, what FAR are you referring to +0/-0 You think there 4/5/2023 12:46:22 PM

first, as a contractor for USFS, you still require a Part 135 certificate. +0/-2 second, to require such device, 4/5/2023 12:51:38 PM

first, as a contractor for USFS, you still require a Part 135 certificate. +2/-1 The operator 4/5/2023 1:27:31 PM

first, as a contractor for USFS, you still require a Part 135 certificate. +2/-2 No, you’re wrong 4/5/2023 1:28:48 PM

first, as a contractor for USFS, you still require a Part 135 certificate. +3/-0 Correct 4/5/2023 1:30:00 PM

first, as a contractor for USFS, you still require a Part 135 certificate. +1/-0 This will blow your mind 4/5/2023 1:33:10 PM

Actually, that is not exactly true! FAA says if you are transporting +0/-2 firefighters to a fire, you need.... 4/5/2023 10:26:36 PM

Actually, that is not exactly true! FAA says if you are transporting +2/-0 Just stop…. 4/5/2023 10:40:48 PM

Well, you obviously have NO idea how HAA workss (NT) +1/-0 so, in that case, we're even! 4/6/2023 8:53:43 AM

Question is, do YOU have any idea how USFS ops are done? +0/-0 Read this: 4/6/2023 9:54:53 AM

Better link: +0/-0 Anonymous 4/6/2023 9:57:02 AM

Question is, do YOU have any idea how USFS ops are done? +0/-0 Jim 4/6/2023 6:31:29 PM

and we also know that you need to be a Part 135 certificate holder +0/-0 and operate under Part 135 4/6/2023 10:15:50 PM

Well, yes you can, as has been determined for a very long time, but +0/-0 transporting firefighters to/from a.... 4/6/2023 9:38:42 AM

Well, yes you can, as has been determined for a very long time, but +0/-0 please tell us more 4/6/2023 7:24:38 PM

I can lead you to it, but I can't make you read it! (NT) +0/-0 FAR 119.1(e)(7) 4/7/2023 3:16:44 AM

And, FAR 91.147(a) (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 4/7/2023 3:32:56 AM

I can lead you to it, but I can't make you read it! +0/-0 the implication is 4/7/2023 7:51:29 AM

know it enough to show you what you were asking for! +0/-0 you need a 135 certificate to fly pax! 4/7/2023 9:27:34 AM

know it enough to show you what you were asking for! +0/-0 if only you were a pilot 4/7/2023 10:16:22 AM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +1/-1 already available 4/5/2023 3:02:17 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +5/-1 I get around 4/5/2023 3:17:36 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-2 Really? 4/5/2023 3:23:23 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +1/-0 say wut 4/5/2023 4:05:16 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-0 the why 4/5/2023 4:37:56 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-1 No one siad 4/5/2023 5:01:03 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-0 why are there 4/5/2023 6:14:27 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-0 point being 4/5/2023 7:05:00 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +1/-6 Really? 4/5/2023 3:32:07 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-3 been there, done that 4/5/2023 6:49:18 PM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-0 uh 4/5/2023 6:56:13 PM

ALPA opposes them! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 4/6/2023 10:25:41 AM

ALPA opposes them! +0/-0 yeah well 4/6/2023 10:33:36 AM

EMS Cockpit Recorders +0/-2 With 4/5/2023 8:32:58 PM

PHI AMG Has had them for years. +0/-4 But then again 4/5/2023 10:22:00 PM

PHI AMG Has had them for years. +0/-1 interesting 4/5/2023 10:39:10 PM

FOQA / LOSA! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 4/6/2023 10:24:45 AM

FOQA / LOSA! +0/-1 Died suddenly 4/6/2023 11:07:48 AM

and that is the biggest reason camera's in the cockpit are (NT) +0/-0 opposed. subject to FOIA requests 4/6/2023 11:32:22 AM

FOQA / LOSA! +0/-1 the camera footage is not 4/6/2023 11:48:07 AM

Until it is! (kind of like how that IIMC vid got aroudn) (NT) +0/-0 Leaky Toilet 4/6/2023 12:09:29 PM

Until it is! (kind of like how that IIMC vid got aroudn) +0/-0 anything can and does get leaked 4/6/2023 12:24:32 PM

Sure you do! That's why there is a 14 hr duty limit (NT) +0/-0 It is just in case situations! 4/6/2023 12:27:50 PM

Sure you do! That's why there is a 14 hr duty limit +0/-0 say wut 4/6/2023 1:07:11 PM

IOW's in spite if your contention they don't do things based on +0/-0 that might occur if.... they wrote many 4/6/2023 1:38:20 PM

IOW's in spite if your contention they don't do things based on +0/-0 uh dude 4/6/2023 1:46:28 PM

You don't work over 14-hrs because something might happen +0/-0 (your premise not to oppose cameras) 4/6/2023 2:05:48 PM

You don't work over 14-hrs because something might happen +0/-0 you have no concept of 4/6/2023 2:31:55 PM

You can absolutely go beyond 14 hours duty time. Feds agree (NT) +0/-0 Just not intentionally 4/6/2023 2:56:18 PM

You can absolutely go beyond 14 hours duty time. Feds agree +1/-0 Absolutely false 4/6/2023 3:03:08 PM

Yeah, OK, ... Doesn't change my point, it only makes it more on point! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 4/6/2023 4:20:05 PM

Right, so why are we limiting a Part 135 pilot to a 14-hr duty day? +0/-0 You doing exactly what you're 4/6/2023 4:18:48 PM

Right, so why are we limiting a Part 135 pilot to a 14-hr duty day? +0/-0 no 4/6/2023 5:08:52 PM

Of all the HAA accidents we've had, NONE were because they exceeded +0/-0 a 14-hour duty day!! NONE! 4/6/2023 10:23:07 PM

Of all the HAA accidents we've had, NONE were because they exceeded +0/-0 so what you’re saying 4/6/2023 10:54:36 PM

They used to do teil-end flight with medcrew that exceeded 14 hrs (NT) +0/-0 all the time. Were there any accidents? 4/7/2023 3:39:20 AM

They used to do teil-end flight with medcrew that exceeded 14 hrs +0/-0 probably 4/7/2023 8:10:15 AM

IOW's in spite if your contention they don't do things based on +0/-0 no 4/6/2023 7:16:34 PM

Find an accident in the NTSB database showing it was due to being (NT) +0/-0 on duty more than 14 hrs as the cause 4/6/2023 10:25:00 PM

Find an accident in the NTSB database showing it was due to being +0/-0 I wonder what 4/6/2023 11:15:10 PM

Find an accident in the NTSB database showing it was due to being +0/-0 been there, done that 4/8/2023 10:10:07 PM

Find an accident in the NTSB database showing it was due to being +0/-0 say wut 4/22/2023 3:33:08 AM

FOQA / LOSA! +0/-1 that doesn't look like 4/6/2023 8:46:59 PM

FOQA / LOSA! +0/-1 Peepee 4/7/2023 12:58:27 AM