Brilliant! (lol)

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Brilliant! (lol)

Author: Anonymous Date: 4/17/2024 3:44:34 PM +0/-0 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

...as relief pilots could be getting hotel rooms and charging mileage and time for short commutes...

So, now, they have to drive up to 50 miles that can take 90 minutes, EACH WAY, to cover assigned shifts in their region. Imagine doing that for 3, 4, or 5 shifts in-a-row covering a vacation!

Travel within 50 miles (100 miles round trip) of that primary location start point shall be considered local in nature, will not require an overnight stay and the Regional Relief Pilot shall not be eligible for compensation, per diem or mileage reimbursement.

So, since you were discussing duty-time .... that 90 minute/50 mile one-way commute is considered rest since it is "Local In Nature"!

Union stepped on their tail here!

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HAA Petersburg VA +3/-2 Eyes open 4/12/2024 8:44:22 PM

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HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 Anonymous 4/13/2024 7:15:07 AM

HAA Petersburg VA +0/-3 I was there 4/13/2024 12:06:07 PM

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HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 BTDT 4/13/2024 4:24:56 PM

HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 olderendirt 4/14/2024 4:13:01 PM

not according to the FAA... (NT) +0/-1 YMMV 4/14/2024 6:40:00 PM

not according to the FAA... +0/-1 Not according 4/14/2024 6:57:16 PM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of (NT) +0/-1 "Local In Nature" 4/14/2024 7:09:18 PM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +2/-1 Just because it 4/14/2024 7:36:19 PM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +0/-0 local in nature or local in character 4/16/2024 6:04:37 AM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +0/-0 Sure it 4/16/2024 6:53:19 AM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +0/-0 okay 4/16/2024 8:49:48 AM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 8:55:36 AM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 that is an example of an 4/16/2024 9:27:47 AM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 That is simply 4/16/2024 12:25:14 PM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 ok then 4/16/2024 1:07:17 PM

Local in nature is: +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 2:16:33 PM

Local in nature is: +0/-0 what would be considered 4/16/2024 2:27:52 PM

coul be up to 1 and a half hours. +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 2:43:53 PM

coul be up to 1 and a half hours. +0/-0 no 4/16/2024 3:12:20 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 3:19:22 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 lol 4/16/2024 3:25:12 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 also 4/16/2024 3:28:50 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 Yes I 4/16/2024 3:39:01 PM

Oh, absolutely it does! +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 3:42:25 PM

Oh, absolutely it does! +0/-0 yup one hour is reasonable 4/16/2024 5:02:46 PM

How you get there.... Well, FAA thinks differently +0/-0 Perks are "Local In Nature" 4/17/2024 7:45:39 AM

How you get there.... Well, FAA thinks differently +0/-0 say wut 4/17/2024 8:11:39 AM

You're the one whining about it being duty time to/fro! (NT) +0/-0 Make up your mind! 4/17/2024 8:26:12 AM

Unfortunately, when the union "helped", it allowed a definition in the CBA +0/-0 defining Local In Nature that .... 4/16/2024 4:10:17 PM

Unfortunately, when the union "helped", it allowed a definition in the CBA +0/-1 now we�re taking about miles 4/16/2024 5:08:44 PM

I live in an area it takes an average of 1 hr 30 minutes to drive 50 miles! (NT) +1/-0 Yeah, Thanks Union for nothing! 4/17/2024 7:52:55 AM

I live in an area it takes an average of 1 hr 30 minutes to drive 50 miles! +0/-1 sucks to be you 4/17/2024 8:05:02 AM

Um, where does it say "only applies to regional relief pilots"? (NT) +1/-0 Are you now making stuff up again? 4/17/2024 8:14:18 AM

Um, where does it say "only applies to regional relief pilots"? +0/-0 nobody pays for your commute 4/17/2024 8:16:18 AM

who's talking about pay? You're talking about duty-time! (NT) +0/-0 So was I! 4/17/2024 8:19:40 AM

who's talking about pay? You're talking about duty-time! +0/-0 why did you take a job 4/17/2024 8:23:19 AM

Why did the union make 90 minutes a "local in nature" (NT) +0/-0 contractual exemption? 4/17/2024 8:25:00 AM

Why did the union make 90 minutes a "local in nature" +0/-0 say wut 4/17/2024 8:27:51 AM

No, but it's in the contract 50 nm! (regardless of how much time it takes (NT) +0/-0 to commute it!) 4/17/2024 8:42:06 AM

No, but it's in the contract 50 nm! (regardless of how much time it takes +0/-0 only applies to regional relief 4/17/2024 8:55:05 AM

Um, workovers are offered to those "local in nature" since it is +0/-0 "local in nature" by CBA 4/17/2024 9:11:33 AM

Um, workovers are offered to those "local in nature" since it is +0/-0 say wut 4/17/2024 9:33:25 AM

FARs do! "Local In Nature" is part of the rest period (NT) +0/-0 Union dumb! 4/17/2024 9:37:58 AM

FARs do! "Local In Nature" is part of the rest period +0/-0 there is no connection between 4/17/2024 9:48:08 AM

Like I said: Union Dumb! (NT) +1/-0 Thanks for nothing Union~ 4/17/2024 10:05:44 AM

Like I said: Union Dumb! +0/-1 say wut 4/17/2024 10:20:04 AM

You - Union Dumb! Helping to make things worse! +1/-0 Anonymous 4/17/2024 10:25:36 AM

You - Union Dumb! Helping to make things worse! +0/-1 it's possible the 4/17/2024 10:44:45 AM

Yeah, company had something to do with it, and union rolled over and +1/-1 simply faild to stand up for it! 4/17/2024 1:06:21 PM

Yeah, company had something to do with it, and union rolled over and +0/-0 the faa has never defined local 4/17/2024 5:10:27 PM

Dude, you were still in soiled diapers when this was added +0/-0 It was put in for a reason.... 4/17/2024 7:16:11 PM

Brilliant! (lol) +0/-0 Anonymous 4/17/2024 3:44:34 PM

Brilliant! (lol) +0/-0 reality bro 4/17/2024 5:45:58 PM

Why? +0/-0 Anonymous 4/17/2024 7:18:20 PM

Why? +0/-0 because amc is not 4/18/2024 9:04:48 AM

So, they will sign an amendment to the CBA tomorrow changing it? (NT) +0/-0 We can believe you when we see it! 4/18/2024 9:29:31 AM

So, they will sign an amendment to the CBA tomorrow changing it? +0/-0 nope 4/18/2024 9:41:07 AM

Even if it is 1 day, not on your duty timesheet, it is TOO MUCH (NT) +0/-0 Thanks Union for NOTHING! 4/18/2024 9:48:14 AM

Even if it is 1 day, not on your duty timesheet, it is TOO MUCH +0/-0 I just told you bro 4/18/2024 9:59:24 AM

50 miles from where again? Ah, see you really don't understand +0/-0 Also, glad you live in rural-land! 4/18/2024 10:08:33 AM

50 miles from where again? Ah, see you really don't understand +0/-0 distance and time are 4/18/2024 12:10:47 PM

"... time a distance are two different things, bro" +0/-0 Glad you finally get it! 4/18/2024 3:52:08 PM

"... time a distance are two different things, bro" +0/-0 no they are not 4/18/2024 4:07:15 PM

ground transportation is a required duty assignment (NT) +0/-0 So it's not REST! 4/18/2024 7:30:43 PM

ground transportation is a required duty assignment +0/-0 uh hem 4/18/2024 8:34:45 PM

Being a minor league union brainiac, I can see why you'd think so

+0/-0 But: 4/18/2024 10:58:20 PM

Being a minor league union brainiac, I can see why you'd think so +0/-0 hmm 4/19/2024 9:01:51 AM

Being a minor league union brainiac, I can see why you'd think so +0/-0 uh 4/19/2024 9:11:24 AM

No, not how it works! He was assigned a base as a "start point" +0/-0 That's the basis of his workplace! 4/19/2024 9:25:08 AM

No, not how it works! He was assigned a base as a "start point" +0/-0 who's he 4/20/2024 9:51:35 AM

Each and ever Regional Relief Pilot (NT) +0/-0 the guy's you keep referring to 4/20/2024 4:04:00 PM

Each and ever Regional Relief Pilot +0/-0 who's he 4/20/2024 5:00:23 PM

You choose to commute! CBA says more than 50NM hotel & travel day required +1/-0 Quit whining. 4/28/2024 11:02:37 PM

HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 Low pay 4/14/2024 5:30:03 PM