14 hour rule, AMC pilots must show up early

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Author: and don't get paid for the preflight Date: 9/21/2021 1:45:02 PM +1/-0 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

AMC requires pilots to show up early to check weather and pre-flight so they are "duty ready" when their shift begins and they are not paid for that time before their shift starts.

From the CBA:

Duty Ready: To facilitate customer and Company needs the oncoming Pilot will be duty ready
at the beginning of their scheduled shift. Duty ready is defined as being available to initiate and
conduct revenue or non-revenue flights. The expectation is that a Pilot will accomplish all
required Federal Aviation Regulation and General Operations Manual actions within the time
period that precedes their duty shift.

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14 hour rule +7/-2 AMC UNION 9/20/2021 9:21:36 PM

14 hour rule +4/-1 No Pilot Is Immune To Being Fired 9/20/2021 9:27:54 PM

14 hour rule +0/-0 Well, 10/5/2021 6:15:54 PM

14 hour rule +2/-3 Lol 9/20/2021 10:18:31 PM

14 hour rule +3/-1 Not having to do that is 9/20/2021 10:29:32 PM

14 hour rule +0/-0 Ur 10/2/2021 9:11:07 PM

Your shift is 12 hours! Can be extended ONLY for a patient flight. +3/-1 Awesome job the Union!!! 9/21/2021 10:37:23 AM

14 hour rule...how do you know? +0/-0 GetReal 9/21/2021 10:42:20 AM

It’s already in the CBA. Been there for over 12 years +2/-0 Schedules of Service Article 9/21/2021 10:49:24 AM

CBA Article 16.1 page A-20 +2/-0 States: 9/21/2021 11:51:05 AM

"Duty Ready" at beginning of shift, so +0/-0 shift starts 15 minutes early 9/21/2021 1:41:00 PM

14 hour rule, AMC pilots must show up early +1/-0 and don't get paid for the preflight 9/21/2021 1:45:02 PM

14 hour rule, AMC pilots must show up early +3/-0 looks like your 9/21/2021 2:40:54 PM

And your obligation is 12 hours from the time you clock in (NT) +0/-2 Reading comprehension is hard 9/21/2021 4:32:53 PM

it appears to be for you +1/-0 maybe take a class? 9/21/2021 5:53:38 PM

it appears to be for you +0/-0 duty is not the shift 9/21/2021 10:56:12 PM

sux to be you, get a job where you get paid (NT) +0/-0 when you start work. 9/21/2021 11:10:00 PM

And your obligation is 12 hours from the time you clock in

+0/-0 Nope 9/21/2021 7:03:04 PM

they're working on it? +0/-0 Let's see... 9/21/2021 7:07:40 PM

Your only obligation is to be ready to “accept” a flight +0/-1 Show up on the dot and accept it 9/21/2021 8:09:05 PM

Your only obligation is to be ready to “accept” a flight +2/-0 If You Are Not On Duty While 9/21/2021 8:46:36 PM

Your only obligation is to be ready to “accept” a flight +0/-0 if you think that 9/21/2021 8:56:16 PM

Your only obligation is to be ready to “accept” a flight +0/-0 Think what? 9/21/2021 9:03:51 PM

Your only obligation is to be ready to “accept” a flight +2/-1 cmon man get serious 9/21/2021 9:07:34 PM

It’s workover pay 1.5x for ANY request whether flown or not (NT) +0/-1 Before shift start. 9/21/2021 9:05:15 PM

It’s workover pay 1.5x for ANY request whether flown or not +0/-0 ok sure pal 9/21/2021 9:17:35 PM

What’s wrong, FACTS got your tongue and ruined your troll post (NT) +1/-0 Bye bye buster 9/22/2021 10:33:29 AM

14 hour rule, AMC pilots must show up early +2/-0 There’s 10/5/2021 6:11:38 PM

14 hour rule, AMC pilots must show up early +1/-0 and are paid for 15 minutes in CA 10/5/2021 7:22:09 PM

BS! They NEGOTIATED the terms of DUTY READY +0/-0 under the RLA. Ratified by VOTE 10/5/2021 8:07:20 PM

BS! They NEGOTIATED the terms of DUTY READY +2/-0 Maybe 10/5/2021 9:43:21 PM

They are, under law, aka RLA. They negotiate for it! No state law (NT) +0/-0 involved since RLA preempts stage law 10/5/2021 10:01:37 PM

14 hour rule, AMC pilots must show up early +0/-0 Clearly 10/5/2021 6:24:47 PM

Compensatible, under the terns of the negotiated contract!! +0/-0 Airlines don't pay "preflight" pay! 10/5/2021 8:23:09 PM

Compensatible, under the terns of the negotiated contract!! +1/-0 Doubt 10/5/2021 9:57:05 PM

Since state law was not applicable, they had no end to worry (NT) +0/-0 about it. It would have been tossed 10/5/2021 10:03:45 PM

Since state law was not applicable, they had no end to worry +0/-0 Be 10/13/2021 9:27:07 AM

Compensatible, under the terns of the negotiated contract!! +0/-0 In Other Industries Preparing For 10/5/2021 10:06:49 PM

This ain't other industries, this is air carrier regulated by RLA +0/-0 CBA was negotiated and ratified! 10/5/2021 10:28:03 PM

This ain't other industries, this is air carrier regulated by RLA +0/-0 Standards In Other Industries 10/5/2021 11:16:51 PM