Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal

Author: Some reading materials for the stall Date: 6/12/2022 12:50:20 AM +0/-7

https://www.law360.com/articles/79557/pilots-no-overtime-campaign-illegal-aa>

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB980736740965129659?mod=trending_now_video_3</p>

https://www.reuters.com/article/labor-injunction/union-cant-encourage-pilot-work-slowdown-during-contract-talks-d-c-circuit-idUSL2N2461A8

https://www.avweb.com/recent-updates/business-military/spirit-pilots-declining-to-work-overtime/

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/local-companies/2019/08/12/american-airlines-wins-trial-over-mechanics-in-work-slowdown-case/

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/court-finds-illegal-slowdown-at-us-airways-grants-preliminary-injunction-against-union

>https://www.twu.org/aa-update-court-issues-permanent-injunction/

https://www.courthousenews.com/airline-wins-injunction/

<p>Tired yet? It's ILLEGAL!

Return-To-Index Display Full Msg Thread

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +0/-7 Some reading materials for the stall 6/12/2022 12:50:20 AM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal (NT) +1/-0 Only By Parties To The Negotiation 6/12/2022 1:33:14 AM

or when Unions don't intervene condemning the message (NT) +1/-0 and stopping the rouge unionists 6/12/2022 9:10:34 AM

or when Unions don't intervene condemning the message +2/-0 Rogue, Like The X-Men Super 6/12/2022 4:29:03 PM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +5/-1 STD trash 6/12/2022 2:17:06 AM

Everyone's selfish! +1/-0 Anonymous 6/12/2022 7:10:40 AM

and profitable since the overtime is plentiful! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 6/12/2022 9:11:51 AM

Fantastic! +1/-0 Anonymous 6/12/2022 1:08:35 PM

It's called Status Quo pal, Status Quo! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 6/12/2022 1:28:48 PM

and profitable since the overtime is plentiful! +0/-0 You Can Maximize The Profitable 6/12/2022 4:32:31 PM

Or�CUT unneeded management and their bonuses. Worthless investment (NT) +2/-0 Waaay too much management and overpaid 6/12/2022 4:36:44 PM

NOT illegal. A violation during certain points of the process AND +8/-0 ONLY by parties to agreement 6/12/2022 7:22:12 AM

You don't read very well! No wonder you don't (NT) +0/-0 negotiate contracts worth the paper 6/12/2022 9:12:51 AM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +1/-1 If I were you, bro 6/12/2022 7:53:59 AM

No. It�s not illegal. STOP trying to scare people AMC management (NT) +1/-1 Scare tactics don�t work here anymore 6/12/2022 8:27:42 AM

Scare, isn't that what you are trying to do? Scare the company (NT) +0/-1 into complying with your arm twisting? 6/12/2022 9:14:52 AM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +1/-0 AMC #5 6/12/2022 11:06:31 AM

Union itself needs to do it, so it's officially discouraged (NT) +0/-0 Otherwise, it's tacit approval 6/12/2022 12:32:26 PM

Union came here to secretly promote this (NT) +0/-0 So this is where it is countered 6/12/2022 12:37:28 PM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +0/-1 And what 6/12/2022 11:21:25 PM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +1/-0 Yes, illegal for the union 6/12/2022 4:10:31 PM

Again. Where has the union done this? Haven�t seen anything from the union +2/-1 On workover or work actions. 6/12/2022 4:33:48 PM

Again. Where has the union done this? Haven�t seen anything from the union +0/-1 You should work on 6/12/2022 4:42:53 PM

The union is it's pilot's. Anyone telling anyone else (NT) +0/-2 to do this is Union telling them! 6/12/2022 5:57:38 PM

No. No it�s not�.or you yourself would be complicit in this act based on (NT) +0/-0 Your theory and warped reality 6/12/2022 6:31:32 PM

Simple facts. Refusing OT to inflict hardship on company (NT) +0/-2 is ILLEGAL, regardless who call for it! 6/12/2022 6:52:29 PM

Simple facts. Refusing OT to inflict hardship on company +0/-0 No Employee Can Be Coerced 6/12/2022 6:55:29 PM

What part of �voluntary� do you not understand. Your logic does not apply +1/-0 Thanks to the CBA language. 6/12/2022 7:10:22 PM

What part of court orders do you not understand? (NT) +0/-1 Enjoined! 6/12/2022 9:00:31 PM

What part of court orders do you not understand? +1/-0 Court 6/12/2022 9:38:20 PM

Nope! A pilot is a union member. Thus, one pilot telling another not to +0/-1 pickup OT is same as "union" telling 6/12/2022 5:51:42 PM

Nope! A pilot is a union member. Thus, one pilot telling another not to +3/-0 Status Quo 6/12/2022 5:55:01 PM

Statistically voluntarily! If, historically, they been paying X amount (NT) +0/-1 of OT1 each payday, it shouldn't change 6/12/2022 6:04:06 PM

Nope! A pilot is a union member. Thus, one pilot telling another not to +3/-0 Picking Up Shifts Is Not Status Quo 6/12/2022 5:55:59 PM

Nope! A pilot is a union member. Thus, one pilot telling another not to +0/-0 Status Quo 6/12/2022 6:19:08 PM

Unfortunately, it is: +0/-2 Just STOP with your illegal campaign 6/12/2022 6:39:03 PM

Unfortunately, it is: voluntary overtime +4/-0 Voluntary Overtime 6/12/2022 6:55:20 PM

Status Quo Overtime!! The data proves it! +0/-1 Courts Issue TRO and fine unions! 6/13/2022 7:24:02 AM

Status Quo Overtime!! The data proves it! +2/-0 OT is voluntary 6/13/2022 7:41:59 AM

And also fact: Union's have been fined for discouraging OT during (NT) +0/-0 negotiations. It's bad faith bargaining 6/13/2022 7:49:31 AM

Voting with my feet +1/-0 No problem 6/13/2022 10:19:49 AM

ALL of those references involved mandatory overtime NOT voluntary! (NT) +0/-0 Read much� 6/13/2022 2:44:22 PM

Status Quo Overtime!! The data proves it! +0/-0 I see 6/13/2022 12:05:55 PM

Courts say it is illegal and that air carriers can seek injuctive +0/-0 relief against individual pilots 6/13/2022 1:27:13 PM

OT is voluntary (NT) +1/-0 Voluntary overtime is not mandatory 6/13/2022 1:49:39 PM

Simply not applicable. Courts also say you�re mentally incompetent (NT) +0/-0 Yet here you are 6/13/2022 2:39:25 PM

Courts say it is illegal and that air carriers can seek injuctive +0/-0 Overtime Is Different Than Open 6/13/2022 3:25:07 PM

Workover and Overtime are different. Voluntary is indisputable. (NT) +0/-0 Bring it on�.no one�s scared 6/13/2022 3:51:07 PM

Appears that YOU are the only one making threats and using scare tactics (NT) +0/-0 FYI�it�s not working. It won�t 6/13/2022 4:23:01 PM

Shift coverage on s overtime. Overtime is voluntary. (NT) +0/-0 Should ft coverage is overtime. 6/13/2022 5:01:15 PM

Like the court ruling said, open time is voluntary +0/-0 Just like workover I voluntarily 6/13/2022 5:18:00 PM

Like the court ruling said, open time is voluntary +0/-0 Voluntary 6/13/2022 5:25:29 PM

So is Open Time in the airlines, yet ALPA was cited for +0/-0 their ILLEGAL No Open Time campaign 6/13/2022 5:48:14 PM

Still waiting for you to post the communication from the union calling 4 +0/-0 Any work stoppage or work action 6/13/2022 6:18:22 PM

Just look here! Been posted several times. Union is obligated for +0/-0 to tell its members otherwise! 6/13/2022 6:46:05 PM

So is your mom�.. see (NT) +1/-0 No one cares 6/13/2022 6:16:06 PM

Work over shift coverage overtime +0/-0 All voluntary 6/13/2022 7:59:07 PM

the stall is the appropriate place +2/-0 for your post 6/13/2022 8:18:29 PM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +1/-0 Encouraging it may be, 6/14/2022 4:24:24 PM

And, that is encouraging it. You are in Status Quo, so (NT) +0/-1 there shouldn't be any hint to do it! 6/14/2022 5:16:21 PM

Voluntary overtime (NT) +0/-0 Is voluntary 6/14/2022 6:55:00 PM

Status quo +1/-1 Status quo 6/15/2022 10:50:00 AM

And, that is encouraging it. You are in Status Quo, so +0/-0 King 6/15/2022 7:59:23 PM

Status Quo +0/-0 So 6/15/2022 8:31:39 PM

Encouraging pilots to not pick up overtime during negotiations is illegal +0/-0 So? 6/19/2022 2:29:13 AM