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Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +6/-0 Yep 12/11/2024 2:58:03 PM

LA R44 Crash Breakdown +6/-3 Only need 12/11/2024 12:12:48 PM

Sign of the times +7/-5 Agree 12/11/2024 10:57:20 AM

LA R44 Crash Breakdown +9/-0 Sad 12/11/2024 10:25:56 AM

Reach and/or AMC training +6/-1 In the know 12/11/2024 1:10:45 AM

calm down weirdo +6/-2 I think it goes 12/10/2024 10:54:52 PM

So do EMS pukes +6/-1 kev 12/10/2024 7:19:46 PM

The sun comes up every day, "it is what is is".... (NT) +6/-1 I'm a puppet. Dang it! 12/10/2024 7:19:36 PM

If you are a leader and say +6/-3 I disagree 12/10/2024 7:16:23 PM

! Minimum ! (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/10/2024 7:06:45 PM

They spend 15 days on the road each month! (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/10/2024 7:02:53 PM

Yes us too. that's all within a month however. (NT) +6/-0 So, not FAR 135.267(c) then. 12/10/2024 4:30:34 PM

If you are a leader and say +7/-1 Nope 12/10/2024 4:22:04 PM

EC145 series +6/-0 BK117C2e 12/10/2024 12:56:40 PM

Very easy to research... +6/-0 good call 12/10/2024 11:27:13 AM

SA300 Puma first flight in 1965 +6/-0 An Army Guy 12/10/2024 10:17:32 AM

Not according to the Arbitration ruling the Union lost (NT) +6/-0 that says otherwise! 12/10/2024 10:15:45 AM

Real professionals fly 600% more than you do each month (NT) +6/-1 Anonymous 12/10/2024 8:20:16 AM

Real professionals get quarter million salaries +6/-0 Yup 12/9/2024 10:38:08 PM

Real professionals get quarter million salaries +6/-0 Blue collar worker 12/9/2024 10:34:36 PM

Turbulance +8/-0 Yes, we do 12/9/2024 10:29:29 PM

Are there any HAA operators that schedule their pilots for nothing but +7/-0 We used to do 12/9/2024 10:27:10 PM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +8/-0 Chock 12/9/2024 10:20:15 PM

Competition +7/-1 Hueeeeeey 12/9/2024 10:18:18 PM

If you are a leader and say +7/-1 Pretty 12/9/2024 10:15:00 PM

It from the Union(s), not the airline(s). +6/-0 It's how real professionals do it 12/9/2024 9:45:34 PM

For any Part 135 flying (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/9/2024 9:40:08 PM

Sign of the times +6/-6 Heli pilot 12/9/2024 9:05:19 PM

Competition +9/-1 XTP 12/9/2024 8:49:30 PM

Sign of the times +23/-2 For Real 12/9/2024 7:24:53 PM

Sign of the times +6/-2 Proof 12/9/2024 6:37:32 PM

Professionals don't need to be begged to fly! +6/-0 Sick link bro 12/9/2024 4:49:01 PM

EC145 series +7/-0 Mikey 12/9/2024 4:40:56 PM

HAA Pilots - what is your schedule? +7/-0 One I know of 12/9/2024 4:31:53 PM

If you are a leader and say +8/-0 oldNtired 12/9/2024 4:30:36 PM

Is"tacticle" radio like "testicle" radio ?? +7/-0 mr spell-check 12/9/2024 3:56:03 PM

Like you just did?? Loser! (NT) +6/-2 Anonymous 12/9/2024 3:29:11 PM

Yeah, all packaged up for you and your perfect world demands (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/9/2024 2:54:27 PM

EC145 series +6/-1 Do You Mean... 12/9/2024 2:52:44 PM

One important thing Junior +6/-0 Yeah, Right... 12/9/2024 2:49:40 PM

correction to above: +6/-0 12 12/9/2024 1:48:22 PM

correction to above: +6/-0 Finish 12/9/2024 1:43:29 PM

Not all scene's are prim and proper when you get there! +6/-1 prim and proper 12/9/2024 1:28:19 PM

the Puma was developed about 10 years after (NT) +6/-1 the UH-1 12/9/2024 1:22:37 PM

Not all scene's are prim and proper when you get there! +6/-0 Many times, they aren't even set up 12/9/2024 12:32:52 PM

Competition +7/-1 I also 12/9/2024 11:58:54 AM

If you are a leader and say +12/-1 wisdom 12/9/2024 11:30:04 AM

One important thing Junior +6/-0 I guess you are one of those 12/9/2024 11:00:05 AM

One important thing Junior +6/-1 This Definition... 12/9/2024 10:55:33 AM

correction to above: +6/-0 Anonymous 12/9/2024 10:53:20 AM

Competition (NT) +7/-1 Yeah...Curious Myself on That One... 12/9/2024 10:50:36 AM

Professionals don't need to be begged to fly! +6/-2 Real professionals just do it!! 12/9/2024 10:50:20 AM

One important thing Junior +8/-0 say wut 12/9/2024 10:16:40 AM

One important thing Junior +6/-1 Agreed... 12/9/2024 10:10:40 AM

Competition +9/-2 how the hell 12/9/2024 10:04:46 AM

If you are a leader and say +6/-3 say wut 12/9/2024 10:00:39 AM

Competition +7/-3 An Army Guy 12/9/2024 9:34:49 AM

If you are a leader and say "it is what +10/-2 Anonymous 12/9/2024 9:28:29 AM

If you are a leader and say "it is what +11/-5 it is" 12/9/2024 8:48:26 AM

calm down weirdo +6/-1 mcguyverson 12/9/2024 12:12:49 AM

Yo, you started this rant when someone was saying the new guy's +6/-0 aren't the experts you clearly think 12/9/2024 12:00:20 AM

i am, but you clearly aren't +6/-0 mcguyverson 12/8/2024 11:44:38 PM

Why are you not talking and listening when orbiting the scene? +6/-0 Sterile cockpit is not complete 12/8/2024 11:39:58 PM

why am i flying a 500ft 60kt pattern in cruise +6/-0 mcguyverson 12/8/2024 11:34:18 PM

Apparently, your not too familiar with the term/use of +7/-0 Sterile Cockpit! 12/8/2024 11:27:12 PM

They didn't start making Robinsons until 1973 +7/-1 This was 1965 12/8/2024 11:12:36 PM

i don't +6/-0 person mcguyverson 12/8/2024 11:04:06 PM

Reach and/or AMC training +6/-0 Wow 12/8/2024 10:20:27 PM

What would you know about the military anyways? (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 9:33:31 PM

By contract, there is! And, pilots don't have the luxury of +6/-0 telling the CP he's taking a LOA 12/8/2024 9:15:12 PM

That's funny, your GOM calls them "flight assignments" +6/-0 As in: 12/8/2024 9:13:37 PM

No, that is not correct. The duty day for flying Part 135 is limited +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 9:07:35 PM

No, that is not correct. The duty day for flying Part 135 is limited (NT) +6/-0 but not the duty day itself! 12/8/2024 9:00:33 PM

You are obligated to accept it, unless it's weather or maintenance +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:57:29 PM

You are obligated to accept it, unless it's weather or maintenance +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:51:36 PM

Actually, you are REQUIRED to accept it by contract! +7/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:47:37 PM

Not in the FAR's you fly under! (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:42:16 PM

Actually, you are REQUIRED to accept it by contract! (NT) +6/-1 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:35:13 PM

Reach and/or AMC training +6/-1 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:26:41 PM

Only in your mind, dumb dumb! Even your contract provides otherwiase! +6/-0 Ha 12/8/2024 8:16:49 PM

One important thing Junior +7/-6 They aren’t missions 12/8/2024 8:09:36 PM

Only in your mind, dumb dumb! Even your contract provides otherwiase! +6/-0 and your GOM! But, you'll 12/8/2024 7:06:04 PM

Original poster is the you poster dumbdumb! +6/-0 Ha 12/8/2024 7:02:12 PM

Mostly for him.... your rotor wash can be a form/source of turbulence too! +6/-1 True... 12/8/2024 6:53:09 PM

Mostly for him.... your rotor wash can be a form/source of turbulence too! (NT) +6/-1 Likely contributed to several accidents 12/8/2024 6:40:08 PM

Turbulance +6/-1 Being Called "Poindexter"... 12/8/2024 6:21:56 PM

Aren't you describing an accelerated stall? +6/-2 To Some Extent... 12/8/2024 6:20:59 PM

...only on the last day on the last leg to domicile, that is (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 5:19:59 PM

...and get tagged by HR for a drug test on the way off the jetway (NT) +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 5:19:03 PM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +6/-0 RTAGer 12/8/2024 5:16:14 PM

Original poster is the you poster dumbdumb! +6/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 4:50:19 PM

Not stupid enough to believe the nonsense you are pulling! There is no +6/-0 lol 12/8/2024 4:22:00 PM

Reach and/or AMC training +12/-1 Up to three weeks 12/8/2024 3:26:37 PM

OK, but do they get paid to preflight? Sounds like you're saying they get +7/-0 a contractual minimum salary for that 12/8/2024 3:00:27 PM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +8/-0 What RTAGer said… 12/8/2024 2:10:10 PM

I did it my way! +27/-0

Anonymous 12/8/2024 2:05:45 PM

Yup! Making unpaid time into above block overtime (NT) +7/-0 lock the pax in, pop the brake, & sit 12/8/2024 1:05:19 PM

Yup! It's how they score overtime pay they wouldn't have just sitting +7/-0 unpaid time that 12/8/2024 12:16:32 PM

Yup! It's how they score overtime pay they wouldn't have just sitting (NT) +7/-0 unpaid. Gets the pay clock going! 12/8/2024 12:11:12 PM

Say, the Block Time for that flight was 1:00, now they get paid +7/-0 say wut 12/8/2024 11:56:30 AM

Say, the Block Time for that flight was 1:00, now they get paid +7/-0 1:20 block (:20 over block) to 12/8/2024 11:40:16 AM

Turbulance +7/-2 Thanks, Poindexter 12/8/2024 11:19:32 AM

Uh, did you ever wonder why the crew is so anxioius to close the cabin door +7/-1 then sit for 20 minutes at the gate? 12/8/2024 10:51:04 AM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +8/-1 RTAGer 12/8/2024 10:48:04 AM

Not stupid enough to believe the nonsense you are pulling! There is no +7/-0 14-hour FAR duty day limitation! 12/8/2024 10:44:31 AM

yes it does, since there AREN'T ANY. +7/-0 how stupid are you? 12/8/2024 10:40:53 AM

Aren't you describing an accelerated stall? (NT) +8/-1 Anonymous 12/8/2024 10:34:01 AM

Turbulance +7/-1 Wind Shear Is... 12/8/2024 10:19:18 AM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +10/-0 Pilots 12/8/2024 10:12:51 AM

Are the pilot's on duty during that unpaid time? (NT) +7/-0 Anonymous 12/8/2024 9:34:17 AM

Turbulance +7/-1 Sounds 12/8/2024 8:58:03 AM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +10/-3 Anonymous 12/8/2024 8:41:40 AM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? +7/-5 Usually pays 12/8/2024 3:21:20 AM

Reach and/or AMC training +16/-1 Two weeks 12/8/2024 12:00:06 AM

It's a Flight Safety facility, but it's company Instructors/Check Airmen (NT) +7/-1 Anonymous 12/7/2024 10:25:38 PM

Reach and/or AMC training +8/-0 Curious 12/7/2024 9:52:55 PM

Do airline pilots get paid to preflight?? Postflight?? (NT) +7/-3 Or Through flight?? 12/7/2024 9:17:05 PM

yes it does, since there AREN'T ANY. (NT) +7/-0 Nobody operates under (c) 12/7/2024 6:31:38 PM

which still doesn't address his question... (NT) +7/-0 good grief 12/7/2024 5:40:54 PM

EC145 series +7/-1 fatpilot 12/7/2024 4:35:52 PM

Se also, Chief Councel's letter to Winton (2014) +7/-0 Anonymous 12/7/2024 2:51:30 PM

even if his typo was corrected to 135.267(c), no HAA operators +7/-0 operate under it since they don't meet 12/7/2024 2:18:53 PM

what a bunch of clowns, +7/-0 the guy asked 12/7/2024 1:38:19 PM

Turbulance +9/-1 it's 12/7/2024 1:34:46 PM

OPSPECs are approved, not the GOM! +8/-0 OK 12/7/2024 11:40:37 AM

OPSPECs are approved, not the GOM! +7/-0 Anonymous 12/7/2024 11:06:18 AM

No, the GOM is not approved by the FAA +7/-0 Find me an "approved by" notation 12/7/2024 11:01:19 AM

Not a regulation! FAA is looking for REST, not max duty limits! +8/-0 OK 12/7/2024 10:48:57 AM

Not a regulation! FAA is looking for REST, not max duty limits! (NT) +7/-0 Again, it is not a labor contract! 12/7/2024 10:42:52 AM

yeah man totally +7/-0 no gom has ever 12/7/2024 10:40:45 AM

Link it +7/-0 Copy and Paste version 12/7/2024 10:38:44 AM

Here: +7/-0 New (2013) 12/7/2024 10:22:37 AM

The FAA cares about fatigue in ANY Part 135 operation +7/-0 Which is why ..... 12/7/2024 9:48:53 AM

Your GOM also says +7/-0 OK 12/7/2024 9:44:50 AM

I care about fatigue flying for-hire under Part 135 too! +7/-0 That's why there is a REST requirment 12/7/2024 9:43:07 AM

Your GOM also says +7/-0 Which is totally wrong! 12/7/2024 9:39:23 AM

Does your GOM cite it uses 135.267(c), or (b)/(d)? +7/-0 OK 12/7/2024 9:01:42 AM

Does your GOM cite it uses 135.267(c), or (b)/(d)? (NT) +7/-0 Bet you excluded that reference!! 12/7/2024 8:21:27 AM

Your GOM is not a labor contract! FARs do not limit your duty (NT) +7/-0 day. They prescribed Rest requirements 12/7/2024 8:12:27 AM

HAA Pilots - what is your schedule? +7/-0 Wonderer 12/7/2024 8:05:32 AM

yeah man totally +7/-0 OK 12/7/2024 6:21:53 AM

yeah man totally +7/-0 your gom does not say 12/7/2024 6:01:35 AM

yeah man totally +7/-0 Anonymous 12/7/2024 5:39:46 AM

2025 Calendar +8/-2 kiwi dread 12/7/2024 5:38:21 AM

Link it +7/-0 anomalous 12/7/2024 12:28:12 AM

Read (and comprehend) FAA Chief Counsel letter (NT) +7/-0 to New (2013) 12/7/2024 12:18:23 AM

yeah man totally +7/-0 m hawk 12/7/2024 12:17:42 AM

Show me the definition of "regularly assigned duty period" (NT) +7/-0 From the FAA 12/7/2024 12:05:28 AM

That intepretation ASSUMES the pilot does not change his schedule +7/-0 every shift! NEW (2013) defines... 12/6/2024 11:15:19 PM

Well now that's an interesting thing to say +7/-0 anonymous 12/6/2024 10:53:59 PM

Yes, they were confused. New (2013) clearly +7/-0 shows HAA is not 135.267(c) 12/6/2024 10:35:24 PM

2025 Calendar +9/-0 oldNtired 12/6/2024 10:13:12 PM

I'm sure they were just confused, there's no duty limit! +7/-0

guy who doesn't breathe through nose 12/6/2024 9:07:14 PM

One more +9/-1 oldNtired 12/6/2024 8:57:02 PM

There's no Part 1 definition of +7/-0 Anonymous 12/6/2024 8:01:25 PM

There's no Part 1 definition of +7/-0 OK 12/6/2024 7:57:59 PM

There's no Part 1 definition of "Regularly Assigned Duty Period" +7/-0 Advocate 12/6/2024 7:28:15 PM

nothing that supports any pilot flying HAA that he has a max duty day +7/-0 of 14 hours! 12/6/2024 7:07:51 PM

2025 Calendar +7/-1 Did 12/6/2024 7:02:36 PM

Turbulance +8/-10 They’re called 12/6/2024 7:01:48 PM

and just what is in FAR 135.257(c)? (NT) +7/-0 curious 12/6/2024 6:50:08 PM

2025 Calendar +8/-0 Thank You! 12/6/2024 6:36:54 PM

Didn't think so! Nobody flying HAA is operating under FAR 135.257(c) (NT) +7/-0 Just ain't happening! 12/6/2024 6:31:26 PM

Turbulance +14/-1 Toot 12/6/2024 6:27:51 PM

Turbulance +7/-10 Maybe 12/6/2024 5:24:55 PM

Turbulance +10/-4 Wut? Wind shear? In a helicopter? 12/6/2024 3:42:19 PM

Shaq-a-roni's (NT) +7/-0 Anonymous 12/6/2024 1:06:26 PM

Turbulance +9/-1 must be the hero 12/6/2024 1:04:48 PM

Are there any HAA operators that schedule their pilots for nothing but (NT) +7/-0 day shift or night shift over a month? 12/6/2024 1:04:12 PM

Turbulance +9/-2 say wut 12/6/2024 12:36:55 PM

Turbulance +8/-7 All these replies 12/6/2024 12:08:13 PM

Dry Tortuga/Ft Jefferson, with permit (PPR) and restrictions (NT) +7/-1 Anonymous 12/6/2024 8:54:47 AM

Florida pilots. Any cool helo ports around Miami or the keys ? +8/-1 Marathon fl 12/6/2024 7:24:15 AM

DT1 Downtown Fort Lauderdale Heliport Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA (NT) +7/-1 Anonymous 12/5/2024 11:07:23 PM

OK Roy +7/-0 Roy 12/5/2024 8:51:16 PM

Turbulance +12/-0 Yes... 12/5/2024 4:52:12 PM

Florida pilots. Any cool helo ports around Miami or the keys ? (NT) +7/-2 Agusta heading down south for winter. 12/5/2024 4:23:05 PM

Turbulence +9/-0 Slowdown 12/5/2024 4:22:05 PM

Turbulence +14/-0 Bumpy Bump 12/5/2024 3:53:09 PM

Careful...don't be this guy +12/-1

lol 12/5/2024 3:05:10 PM

Turbulance +7/-6 say wut 12/5/2024 11:26:38 AM

Turbulance +9/-1 same here 12/5/2024 9:14:21 AM

Turbulance +14/-1 Yes 12/5/2024 8:19:47 AM

Turbulance (NT) +9/-0 it’s turbulence 12/5/2024 6:02:33 AM

Turbulance +8/-11 LLWS 12/4/2024 10:10:45 PM

No, it defines a 10 hr rest requirement, not a duty limit (NT) +7/-0 Anonymous 12/4/2024 12:12:45 PM

One more +12/-1 Bj 12/4/2024 10:54:21 AM

OK Roy +7/-1 Roy Hater 12/4/2024 7:50:12 AM

When this site +7/-5 DoubleD 12/4/2024 1:54:30 AM

Donot and I repeat, do not +7/-1 Roy 12/3/2024 9:53:07 PM

Are you always on day shifts for that year? +7/-0 Or, always on night shifts? 12/3/2024 5:58:15 PM

Read it! Lots of times! It assumed operating under (c) +7/-0 OK 12/3/2024 5:32:46 PM

Read it! Lots of times! It assumed operating under (c) (NT) +7/-0 OK 12/3/2024 5:25:40 PM

Donot and I repeat, do not +8/-2 Make 12/3/2024 5:01:24 PM

Donot and I repeat, do not +7/-2 nobody brings donuts in from 12/3/2024 4:40:53 PM

Donot and I repeat, do not +13/-3 If that 12/3/2024 3:30:28 PM

And, New (2013) also shows that there is no 14 hr duty limit, as things (NT) +7/-0 just revert to (b) if you ain't (c) 12/3/2024 3:24:54 PM

Read it! Lots of times! It assumed operating under (c) +7/-0 which you don't do not! 12/3/2024 3:06:39 PM

Donot and I repeat, do not +8/-5 Donut King 12/3/2024 2:19:35 PM

When this site +9/-4 Retired 12/3/2024 2:11:59 PM

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