| Msg ID: 2868183 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +1/-0
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| Author:Anon01
8/2/2026 3:23:03 PM |
Sad day in fire community. Two 214ST’s come together on a fire in Greece. Dangerous work. |
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| Msg ID: 2868190 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe Video +1/-1
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| Author:ISFWes
8/2/2026 6:42:51 PM Reply to: 2868183 |
Two firefighting helicopters crash while Greece fights coastal wildfires |
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| Msg ID: 2868191 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe Video +3/-0
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| Author:Capt Nemo
8/2/2026 6:53:44 PM Reply to: 2868190 |
A tragic loss… |
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| Msg ID: 2868197 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +2/-0
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| Author:Fire Copter
8/2/2026 7:43:03 PM Reply to: 2868183 |
Are those both McDermott machines? Very sad indeed. |
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| Msg ID: 2868199 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +2/-2
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| Author:See and avoid
8/2/2026 10:26:44 PM Reply to: 2868183 |
See and avoid. |
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| Msg ID: 2868200 |
Got to see, to avoid! (NT) +1/-1
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| Author:Anonymous
8/2/2026 10:44:09 PM Reply to: 2868199 |
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| Msg ID: 2868213 |
Got to look to see! (NT) +2/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
8/3/2026 10:31:15 AM Reply to: 2868200 |
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| Msg ID: 2868280 |
Sometimes, things are hidden by your aircraft's airframe (NT) +1/-1
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| Author:Anonymous
8/5/2026 2:16:43 PM Reply to: 2868213 |
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| Msg ID: 2868220 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +1/-2
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| Author:Garmin
8/3/2026 12:18:11 PM Reply to: 2868183 |
What...no TCAS?? |
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| Msg ID: 2868224 |
The last 214ST I touched at PHI +3/-4
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| Author:a. Guru
8/3/2026 1:06:50 PM Reply to: 2868220 |
was circa 2001. We were just starting to install Skywatch in 206's and 407's. Pretty sure the 214's we had never got skywatch. We sold them off as is, they were old and beginning to show signs of their age. 92's replaced them....the few we had. SO yeah, if we didn't install any sort of TCAS back then, I doubt anyone else bothered to put it in either. Owners probably figured working fires meant remote work and out there all alone with not much traffic around to be worried about triggering a traffic alert anyway. It's not like you are ever gonna fight fires in Class B airspace. We put skywatch in for the GOM birds....because let's face it. With out it, you guys would probably have run into each other at least once a month. |
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| Msg ID: 2868226 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +7/-1
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| Author:LACOFD
8/3/2026 3:48:34 PM Reply to: 2868220 |
I have found that the effectiveness of TCAS can be somewhat limited when operating in close vicinity of other firefighting aircraft due to the merging of many threat alerts. Eyes outside is the best defense. |
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| Msg ID: 2868236 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +2/-0
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| Author:Ex orange
8/4/2026 12:24:51 AM Reply to: 2868183 |
Have to crews been named in the media yet? Company information? |
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| Msg ID: 2868242 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +1/-1
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| Author:Per
8/4/2026 8:11:00 AM Reply to: 2868236 |
Prelim report 2 were killed RIP, The other 2 were listed as "Serious Condition" |
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| Msg ID: 2868243 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +1/-1
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| Author:Both
8/4/2026 8:41:57 AM Reply to: 2868183 |
Were N Reg. N511EV & N746H Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee. Doesn't say who the Operator is. Again, RIP for the 2 ??& Hope full recovery for the other 2! |
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| Msg ID: 2868272 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +1/-4
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| Author:Id never forgive myself
8/5/2026 10:42:49 AM Reply to: 2868243 |
ifi were so stupid to run into a helicopter in plain sight in front of me and killed two people. |
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| Msg ID: 2868283 |
Fire Heli Midair in Europe +4/-1
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| Author:I think
8/5/2026 3:30:11 PM Reply to: 2868272 |
The best we can do now is have an honest investigation and determine what , if anything can be done to make not happen! Most regulations are written in blood! |
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