Msg ID: 2867673 Bell 206L NY accident +0/-4     
Author:mike b206
7/19/2026 3:51:18 PM

Not Buying the story about the geese bring the helicopter down. There are lots of videos from different angles and none show geese, also after  "The miracle on the Hudson" the FAA is tracking geese migrations , the question is: did the roof come apart first ? causing the blade to chop the tail boom off, or did the blade chopped off the tail boom causing the roof to break away from the cabin?



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Msg ID: 2867675 Bell 206L NY accident +1/-2     
Author:Irrelevant
7/19/2026 7:04:50 PM

Reply to: 2867673

The tailboom had been damaged on the ground at some point in the past, whether during ground handling or careless behavior by those working or walking around the aircraft.  A small dent on the tail skin creates a weak point that will cause the very failure that can be seen in the video.  Even the slightest dent should be inspected and/or repaired.  



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Msg ID: 2867676 Bell 206L NY accident +3/-2     
Author:Anonymous
7/19/2026 8:13:11 PM

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Bell 407 Service Letter for Cabin Top Cracks Overview The service letter for the Bell 407 regarding cabin top cracks includes essential inspection and repair instructions. These guidelines are crucial for maintaining safety and compliance with aviation standards. Key Instructions Inspection: Regularly check the cabin top for any signs of cracks or structural integrity issues. Repair: Follow the specified procedures in the service letter to address any identified cracks promptly. Additional Resources For comprehensive details, refer to the following:


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Msg ID: 2867678 Bell 206L NY accident +5/-2     
Author:it wasn't a 407
7/19/2026 8:27:44 PM

Reply to: 2867676

but yeah



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Msg ID: 2867682 Sometimes +2/-1     
Author:Capt Nemo
7/20/2026 5:06:59 AM

Reply to: 2867678

It’s the Humpty Dumpty syndrome.  Even when you have all the pieces, it doesn’t come together.  



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Msg ID: 2867684 Bell 206L NY accident +1/-1     
Author:Weak link
7/20/2026 7:22:14 AM

Reply to: 2867673
Canadian goose vs pc link is the worst case scenario. Same thing happened on Oklahoma with a former retired MH6 pilot. Full sized goose at 100knots is like throwing a brick at your upper flight controls. If one severs you are done.


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Msg ID: 2867689 Bell 206L NY accident +2/-1     
Author:206L
7/20/2026 9:58:20 AM

Reply to: 2867684

If you look at the picture you can see one pitch link under swashplate. One blade out of phase to this degree and there goes tailboom and all!  I was landing at Columbia county airport which is same freq. as river and somebody announced flock of geese on river at about 1510.



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Msg ID: 2867690 Bell 206L NY accident +1/-3     
Author:Reaching
7/20/2026 10:19:51 AM

Reply to: 2867689

for anything, especially something recent when you don’t have the expertise to properly investigate.  That tailboom clearly folded before anything else happened. The pictures of the tail clearly show a clean fracture aft of the attachment point.



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Msg ID: 2867695 Bell 206L NY accident +1/-0     
Author:my guess
7/20/2026 12:44:29 PM

Reply to: 2867690

birds or bird hit pitch link or links and blade sailed into the tailboom



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Msg ID: 2867691 "don't have the expertise to properly investigate..." +2/-1     
Author:eminem
7/20/2026 10:30:46 AM

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https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/?NTSBNumber=ERA25MA171



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Msg ID: 2867698 BBBBBuh Bird is the word +3/-1     
Author:Anonymous
7/20/2026 3:48:26 PM

Reply to: 2867691

9.0 Examination and Bird Strike Findings

During examination of the fuselage and rotor blades, main rotor blade foam

core pieces and a severed bird wing were discovered on the ground and on roof

tops about 2,000 feet northwest of the wreckage recovery site, a specialist from the

Smithsonian Institution’s Feather Identification Lab (National Museum of Natural

History) was invited by the NTSB to conduct sampling of the wreckage to identify

potential bird remains. Additional sampling of the main rotor blades was conducted

by the Feather Identification Lab at the NTSB Materials Laboratory. Bird remains were

discovered



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Msg ID: 2867703 BBBBBuh Bird is the word +3/-5     
Author:A.Guru
7/20/2026 7:09:50 PM

Reply to: 2867698

Big fat bird hits Horizontal stab near winglet, causes T-boom to snap off 13 inches from attachment ring, That force sends rotor disk 90 degrees from direction of flight in the vertical axis.  The enormous aerodynamic forces on spinning rotor disk acting like a drag chute rip the entire roof deck, xmsn, head, main rotor system off in one solid piece.  The rest is history.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHg0l0v3t5c



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