aircraft totaled, everybody else, bodies bruised and so are egos

sounds like homie misjudged distance from trees. should be plenty of video out there

https://fox2now.com/news/illinois/helicopter-training-crash-in-illinois-crews-on-scene-response/

Because 90% of everyone with a longline now are 0 skilled and inexperienced 

Gosh who would've thought 30 years of good old boys clubs and only hiring pilots with 5,000 hours and not training new meat would lead to this. I personally am shocked.

I'll Drink to that!

Ironic they were there to give an LZ class only to crash on departure…..

Excellent training for fire department. 

Heli pilots are just not capable

yeah yeah every time something happens it's always proof of something or another

Lots of helicopters crashing and burning.  Ignorant career choice.  F that S. 

and thats all that really matters

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/10/us/reagan-airport-planes-clip-wings.html

Don't know how some feel about this but at my EMS program we do a couple dozen "scene calls" per year. Is it even worth it anymore for us to do them here? NO. We have fire departments setting up a place to land that may or may not be ideal. Then we send a pilot, who may or may not be proficient at whatever time day or night, with a so-called medical crew (THAT in all circumstances is not an Aircrew) to go land and if anything goes wrong we blame that same pilot. Fire Department, Medical Crew never to blame, aircraft manufacturer never to blame, company check airmen never to blame. Not trying to push blame off but why are some of us doing these flights? I get it in remote or mountainous areas where getting to a hospital may take hours but I fly in a huge area where there is a hospital with minutes just about everywhere

My program flies nearly 600 flights a year and 85% are scene calls. Just goes to show how different each program is.

Who was at the controls at the time of the entanglement W/tree 🤔

1.  Fire Dept. NO, 
2. Med Crew, NO. 
3.  AF mfg, NO, 
4. Program manager NO. 
5. Weather bad, NO.
6.  It was %100 the pilot's fault!! Quit trying to protect lack of skills in the pilot!!!

More importantly, did he click the migratory bird box?

I promise not to hit tree: Check.

Was a call-and-response CRM checklist completed by the crew?

obviously didn't determine and record the highest obstacle enroute!

Is not what it was when we were on our own certificate back in the nineties.  AIRM came in and destroyed what was once a very envious and just downright safe and fun place of employment.  Great aircraft, great maintenance, great communications, great ground and flight teams...Just another big box HAA op, now.

Former ARCH guy...

With the hangar fiasco and internal group who tried to take the company didn't help.