Yeah, company had something to do with it, and union rolled over and

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Author: simply faild to stand up for it! Date: 4/17/2024 1:06:21 PM +1/-1 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

Why? Because they were ignorant and simply let the language into the contract, now defining Local In Nature to mean a fixed distance, where there wasn't one before. Duty Time is affected by this, even though our union's duty-time "expert" didn't have a clue and still doesn't apparently!

FAA says transportation "local in nature" is part of the rest period, which now included a 50 mile drive upwards of 90 minutes!

You union types are stunad!

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HAA Petersburg VA +0/-3 I was there 4/13/2024 12:06:07 PM

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HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 BTDT 4/13/2024 4:24:56 PM

HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 olderendirt 4/14/2024 4:13:01 PM

not according to the FAA... (NT) +0/-1 YMMV 4/14/2024 6:40:00 PM

not according to the FAA... +0/-1 Not according 4/14/2024 6:57:16 PM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of (NT) +0/-1 "Local In Nature" 4/14/2024 7:09:18 PM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +2/-1 Just because it 4/14/2024 7:36:19 PM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +0/-0 local in nature or local in character 4/16/2024 6:04:37 AM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +0/-0 Sure it 4/16/2024 6:53:19 AM

No it isn't! That is clearly in the definition of +0/-0 okay 4/16/2024 8:49:48 AM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 8:55:36 AM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 that is an example of an 4/16/2024 9:27:47 AM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 That is simply 4/16/2024 12:25:14 PM

This is just one of many examples: +0/-0 ok then 4/16/2024 1:07:17 PM

Local in nature is: +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 2:16:33 PM

Local in nature is: +0/-0 what would be considered 4/16/2024 2:27:52 PM

coul be up to 1 and a half hours. +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 2:43:53 PM

coul be up to 1 and a half hours. +0/-0 no 4/16/2024 3:12:20 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 3:19:22 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 lol 4/16/2024 3:25:12 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 also 4/16/2024 3:28:50 PM

That IS the definition! +0/-0 Yes I 4/16/2024 3:39:01 PM

Oh, absolutely it does! +0/-0 Anonymous 4/16/2024 3:42:25 PM

Oh, absolutely it does! +0/-0 yup one hour is reasonable 4/16/2024 5:02:46 PM

How you get there.... Well, FAA thinks differently +0/-0 Perks are "Local In Nature" 4/17/2024 7:45:39 AM

How you get there.... Well, FAA thinks differently +0/-0 say wut 4/17/2024 8:11:39 AM

You're the one whining about it being duty time to/fro! (NT) +0/-0 Make up your mind! 4/17/2024 8:26:12 AM

Unfortunately, when the union "helped", it allowed a definition in the CBA +0/-0 defining Local In Nature that .... 4/16/2024 4:10:17 PM

Unfortunately, when the union "helped", it allowed a definition in the CBA +0/-1 now we�re taking about miles 4/16/2024 5:08:44 PM

I live in an area it takes an average of 1 hr 30 minutes to drive 50 miles! (NT) +1/-0 Yeah, Thanks Union for nothing! 4/17/2024 7:52:55 AM

I live in an area it takes an average of 1 hr 30 minutes to drive 50 miles! +0/-1 sucks to be you 4/17/2024 8:05:02 AM

Um, where does it say "only applies to regional relief pilots"? (NT) +1/-0 Are you now making stuff up again? 4/17/2024 8:14:18 AM

Um, where does it say "only applies to regional relief pilots"? +0/-0 nobody pays for your commute 4/17/2024 8:16:18 AM

who's talking about pay? You're talking about duty-time! (NT) +0/-0 So was I! 4/17/2024 8:19:40 AM

who's talking about pay? You're talking about duty-time! +0/-0 why did you take a job 4/17/2024 8:23:19 AM

Why did the union make 90 minutes a "local in nature" (NT) +0/-0 contractual exemption? 4/17/2024 8:25:00 AM

Why did the union make 90 minutes a "local in nature" +0/-0 say wut 4/17/2024 8:27:51 AM

No, but it's in the contract 50 nm! (regardless of how much time it takes (NT) +0/-0 to commute it!) 4/17/2024 8:42:06 AM

No, but it's in the contract 50 nm! (regardless of how much time it takes +0/-0 only applies to regional relief 4/17/2024 8:55:05 AM

Um, workovers are offered to those "local in nature" since it is +0/-0 "local in nature" by CBA 4/17/2024 9:11:33 AM

Um, workovers are offered to those "local in nature" since it is +0/-0 say wut 4/17/2024 9:33:25 AM

FARs do! "Local In Nature" is part of the rest period (NT) +0/-0 Union dumb! 4/17/2024 9:37:58 AM

FARs do! "Local In Nature" is part of the rest period +0/-0 there is no connection between 4/17/2024 9:48:08 AM

Like I said: Union Dumb! (NT) +1/-0 Thanks for nothing Union~ 4/17/2024 10:05:44 AM

Like I said: Union Dumb! +0/-1 say wut 4/17/2024 10:20:04 AM

You - Union Dumb! Helping to make things worse! +1/-0 Anonymous 4/17/2024 10:25:36 AM

You - Union Dumb! Helping to make things worse! +0/-1 it's possible the 4/17/2024 10:44:45 AM

Yeah, company had something to do with it, and union rolled over and +1/-1 simply faild to stand up for it! 4/17/2024 1:06:21 PM

Yeah, company had something to do with it, and union rolled over and +0/-0 the faa has never defined local 4/17/2024 5:10:27 PM

Dude, you were still in soiled diapers when this was added +0/-0 It was put in for a reason.... 4/17/2024 7:16:11 PM

Brilliant! (lol) +0/-0 Anonymous 4/17/2024 3:44:34 PM

Brilliant! (lol) +0/-0 reality bro 4/17/2024 5:45:58 PM

Why? +0/-0 Anonymous 4/17/2024 7:18:20 PM

Why? +0/-0 because amc is not 4/18/2024 9:04:48 AM

So, they will sign an amendment to the CBA tomorrow changing it? (NT) +0/-0 We can believe you when we see it! 4/18/2024 9:29:31 AM

So, they will sign an amendment to the CBA tomorrow changing it? +0/-0 nope 4/18/2024 9:41:07 AM

Even if it is 1 day, not on your duty timesheet, it is TOO MUCH (NT) +0/-0 Thanks Union for NOTHING! 4/18/2024 9:48:14 AM

Even if it is 1 day, not on your duty timesheet, it is TOO MUCH +0/-0 I just told you bro 4/18/2024 9:59:24 AM

50 miles from where again? Ah, see you really don't understand +0/-0 Also, glad you live in rural-land! 4/18/2024 10:08:33 AM

50 miles from where again? Ah, see you really don't understand +0/-0 distance and time are 4/18/2024 12:10:47 PM

"... time a distance are two different things, bro" +0/-0 Glad you finally get it! 4/18/2024 3:52:08 PM

"... time a distance are two different things, bro" +0/-0 no they are not 4/18/2024 4:07:15 PM

ground transportation is a required duty assignment (NT) +0/-0 So it's not REST! 4/18/2024 7:30:43 PM

ground transportation is a required duty assignment +0/-0 uh hem 4/18/2024 8:34:45 PM

Being a minor league union brainiac, I can see why you'd think so

+0/-0 But: 4/18/2024 10:58:20 PM

Being a minor league union brainiac, I can see why you'd think so +0/-0 hmm 4/19/2024 9:01:51 AM

Being a minor league union brainiac, I can see why you'd think so +0/-0 uh 4/19/2024 9:11:24 AM

No, not how it works! He was assigned a base as a "start point" +0/-0 That's the basis of his workplace! 4/19/2024 9:25:08 AM

No, not how it works! He was assigned a base as a "start point" +0/-0 who's he 4/20/2024 9:51:35 AM

Each and ever Regional Relief Pilot (NT) +0/-0 the guy's you keep referring to 4/20/2024 4:04:00 PM

Each and ever Regional Relief Pilot +0/-0 who's he 4/20/2024 5:00:23 PM

You choose to commute! CBA says more than 50NM hotel & travel day required +1/-0 Quit whining. 4/28/2024 11:02:37 PM

HAA Petersburg VA +1/-1 Low pay 4/14/2024 5:30:03 PM