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Not sure what the disconnect is, but there was a time you could have a healthy debate about the dos and don'ts after an incident. Why is it always a mystery and considered tabu to talk about the what ifs? Just an example. 1) NC, and a clogged oil line. 2) Bahamas, at night in a 139, classic cfit. 3) Texas R-44, racing a tailboom to the ground 4) Upstate NY, seemingly the same thing. A week or so ago someone posted ADS-B data that now seems to have been scrubbed from a certain website. Riddle me that? Like I said, speak intelligently and state known facts.