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Msg ID: 2835265 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a (NT) +0/-0     
Author:PART 91 flight?
11/24/2024 9:35:22 PM


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Msg ID: 2835275 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +0/-1     
Author:I was on duty for 14 hours
11/24/2024 11:22:54 PM

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But the company needed me to work at a base in the next state over the next day where their aircraft so I just took a Part 91 ferry flight and rolled right into my next 12. My overtime was crazy!



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Msg ID: 2835280 See, since that is duty, it counts agains the 14 hr limit since there's  +2/-0     
Author:limit for 135. But, you could....
11/25/2024 7:12:03 AM

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... work at the base all day for Part 135, then take the Part 91 at the end of that Part 135 portion since Part 91 has not limitations.


You are not limited to 14 hours (i.e., there is not 24 hour lookback for 10 hours of rest) under Part 91.    




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Msg ID: 2835273 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +1/-0     
Author:Geezer
11/24/2024 11:11:08 PM

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Answer; None. 

Also answer; pick up an FAR from time to time.



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Msg ID: 2835279 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +0/-0     
Author:Depends...
11/25/2024 6:36:00 AM

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Is the part 91 flight being conducted as part of your duty day for a Part 135 Air Carrier?



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Msg ID: 2835284 NONE! There is no requirement for rest under Part 91 (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Anonymous
11/25/2024 7:47:37 AM

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Msg ID: 2835286 NONE! There is no requirement for rest under Part 91 +9/-0     
Author:No one is saying there is
11/25/2024 9:22:32 AM

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However if you plan on flying part 135 the next you need 10 hours of uninterrupted rest. Flying, driving, swabbing toilets, it doesn't matter. If the company requires you to do it it's part of your part 135 duty time and you cannot take a part 135 duty period without 10 hours of rest. I understand that the garbage operator you flew for didn't care and you were too dumb to defend your rights, that doesn't mean it was legal.



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Msg ID: 2835288 Yes, there are some saying there is. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:You got it right. They don't!
11/25/2024 10:05:16 AM

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Msg ID: 2835290 The Part 91 flights at the end of the day are not Part 135. So, there (NT) +0/-0     
Author:is no lookback requirement for them
11/25/2024 10:59:49 AM

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Msg ID: 2835291 The Part 91 flights at the end of the day are not Part 135. So, there +1/-0     
Author:That's why I said Part 135 the next day
11/25/2024 11:17:35 AM

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So if you're planning on working Part 135 the next day it still counts towards the lookback. It's really not that hard. If your jobs requires you to do something it's duty and you're not flying part 135 until 10 hours later, no matter what your paramedic area manager says.

If your operator is hurting so bad that on your 7th or 14th or whatever the end of your hitch is they have you ferrying aircraft around past your 14th hour it may be time to start looking for a new job.



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Msg ID: 2835292 why are you assumimg every part 135 flight has a medic or nurse? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Or has a "hitch"?
11/25/2024 11:34:41 AM

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Msg ID: 2835296 why are you assumimg every part 135 flight has a medic or nurse? +1/-0     
Author:come on people
11/25/2024 11:48:45 AM

Reply to: 2835292

this is dumbest and most often dragged out troll on here. 



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Msg ID: 2835312 If the medic and nurse are not on-board, you can Part 91 well after 14 hour (NT) +0/-2     
Author:Lot's of useful reasons for that!
11/25/2024 4:50:48 PM

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Msg ID: 2835331 If the medic and nurse are not on-board, you can Part 91 well after 14 hour +0/-0     
Author:yeah
11/25/2024 9:52:40 PM

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lots



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Msg ID: 2835335 Can get you home instead of a hotel! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
11/26/2024 7:30:10 AM

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Msg ID: 2835339 Can get you home instead of a hotel! +0/-0     
Author:Yeah you'll need it
11/26/2024 8:04:51 AM

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For your extra hours of rest for blowing through your duty day!



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Msg ID: 2835341 Or, you can take an Uber back.... (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
11/26/2024 9:02:08 AM

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Msg ID: 2835332 The Part 91 flights at the end of the day are not Part 135. So, there +0/-2     
Author:so who’s says you can’t do 91
11/26/2024 1:23:36 AM

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at the beginning of the day or the middle 



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Msg ID: 2835333 The Part 91 flights at the end of the day are not Part 135. So, there (NT) +0/-0     
Author:you're trying too hard now bro
11/26/2024 1:47:22 AM

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Msg ID: 2835336 Nobody. But some are saying you can't do them at the end! +0/-0     
Author:If it's in the middle, it's obviously
11/26/2024 7:31:37 AM

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not past your 14hrs.   Duh!



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Msg ID: 2835343 Nobody. But some are saying you can't do them at the end! +0/-0     
Author:yeah but
11/26/2024 9:31:50 AM

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you could claim it’s 91 and work longer. I’m surprised air methods hasn’t tried this yet



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Msg ID: 2835347 As the PIC, I don't mind doing my job (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
11/26/2024 9:57:16 AM

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Msg ID: 2835363 As the PIC, I don't mind doing my job  +1/-0     
Author:As the PIC
11/26/2024 11:13:14 AM

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You're responsible for obeying the FARs.



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Msg ID: 2835391 Correct. And there are no duty restrictions in the FAR (NT) +0/-1     
Author:under Part 91.
11/26/2024 5:24:29 PM

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Msg ID: 2835348 As the PIC, I don't mind doing my job (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
11/26/2024 10:14:42 AM

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Msg ID: 2835349 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +1/-0     
Author:Only catch
11/26/2024 10:16:20 AM

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on Part 91 ref: pilot rest is looking back time of wakefulness.  Guaranteed if the pilot flies and hasn't had rest in, say, 20 hours, it could be investigated under Careless and Reckless operation.  16 hours of wakefulness is generally considered the cutoff concerning effective pilot attentiveness to tasks at hand.

My guess!



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Msg ID: 2835393 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +0/-1     
Author:every post you make has
11/26/2024 5:48:46 PM

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grammar and spelling errors bro. like every one



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Msg ID: 2835394 So, apparently JH's spell checker isn't working +0/-0     
Author:But, nonetheless, there ain't FAR...
11/26/2024 5:53:58 PM

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problems working longer than 14 hrs under Part 19!   There is no 10 rest in 24 look-back requirement under Part 91.

And, isn't "bro" suppose to be capitalized, Sis?



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Msg ID: 2835396 So, apparently JH's spell checker isn't working +0/-0     
Author:part 19 he says
11/26/2024 6:39:15 PM

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lol. as I was saying



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Msg ID: 2835397 Glass houses, Kettle! Glass houses! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
11/26/2024 6:42:44 PM

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Msg ID: 2835458 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +0/-1     
Author:Whatever@whatever.com
11/27/2024 9:02:12 PM

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Zero.


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Msg ID: 2835491 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Z E R O
11/28/2024 12:21:38 PM

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Msg ID: 2835706 How many hours of mandatoy REST do you need to before legally taking a +0/-0     
Author:nada
12/2/2024 10:12:13 PM

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zero



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