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Msg ID: 2812510 HAA and EFB iPads  +2/-1     
Author:4 season flyer
4/23/2024 8:18:48 AM

Prepare yourselves fellow JH'ers....serious question ahead... 

Our outfit is finally transitioning to EFB. We have iPad mounts installed and are starting to fly with them. However; we have not nailed down where they will be located prior to a flight. Do you all leave them in the aircraft? In a fixed location plugged in? Somewhere quick to grab on the way out the door?

We experience 4 seasons from freezing cold like a witch's t!*ty in a brass bra doing pushups in the snow to blazing hot like 2 mice f*@king in a wool sock during summer here and aitcraft are supposed to be outside when weather is flyable (meaning iPads could / would be in aircraft if that's the decision)

What say you all? 



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Msg ID: 2812513 HAA and EFB iPads  +8/-1     
Author:Inside
4/23/2024 9:55:07 AM

Reply to: 2812510

keep them inside charging on a shelf right next to the aircraft logbook.  



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Msg ID: 2812514 HAA and EFB iPads  +1/-1     
Author:me me me
4/23/2024 9:59:48 AM

Reply to: 2812513

I like to keep everything in the aircraft after preflight: goggles, logbook, helmet and spare ipad that's fully charged. When a flight comes in, all I have to do it grab the ipad and go. I tend to not forget anything that way and I don't like having to carry a bunch of stuff to the aircraft before a flight. 



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Msg ID: 2812515 HAA and EFB iPads  +5/-1     
Author:EX CH-47 Pilot
4/23/2024 10:06:37 AM

Reply to: 2812510

Always insure your EFB is secure and doesn't fall and get stuck between the anti-torque pedals, it can result in a fatal accident.    



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Msg ID: 2812523 HAA and EFB iPads  +0/-2     
Author:Topjimmy
4/23/2024 12:19:38 PM

Reply to: 2812515

How much do you "insure" them for? $



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Msg ID: 2812525 HAA and EFB iPads  +2/-0     
Author:Slug
4/23/2024 12:53:35 PM

Reply to: 2812510

You didnt mention how the aircraft was being stored outside.  With airconditioning, visors, location from office space... I'm not a big fan of putting on a heat soaked helmet during the summer months or trying to defrost the ear cups and head liner in the winter.  Leaving your iPad/phone in areas where the temp goes way up such as a clsoed cockpit, you may run into delays as the unit returns to operating temps before allowing power up.  Batteries as well as electronics as a whole don't really react well to extreme temp changes.      



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Msg ID: 2812526 HAA and EFB iPads  +0/-2     
Author:say wut
4/23/2024 1:02:29 PM

Reply to: 2812525

way to really think about everything including the temperture of your helmet 



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Msg ID: 2812689 HAA and EFB iPads  +0/-1     
Author:The real pilots
4/25/2024 9:26:18 PM

Reply to: 2812526

understand the issues.



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Msg ID: 2812529 HAA and EFB iPads  +0/-1     
Author:I'm not a fan of
4/23/2024 2:11:58 PM

Reply to: 2812525

putting a heat soaked ipad on my head depending on how far from the office, as it causes delays



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Msg ID: 2812539 HAA and EFB iPads  +1/-0     
Author:EFB Guy
4/23/2024 4:21:24 PM

Reply to: 2812529

Get a lobook cover with a side pocket to hold the primary i-pad and take it inside with you for charging, weather checks, W+B updates etc. The secondry i-pad stays plugged in in our aircraft and have suffered no ill effects.



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Msg ID: 2812552 Keep it with you! Logbook, iPad, Helmet, NVGs etc +0/-1     
Author:So, everytime you head out ....
4/23/2024 10:35:10 PM

Reply to: 2812510

... you are carrying all the same things.

 

If you leave something, like the logbook, or EFB, or helmet, inevidably you will find yourself sitting in in the acft ready to start with something missing, or taking off with something missing.   Better to have a flow...   ALWAYS carry out these things so you don't inadvertantly leave them behind, or have someone take them from your cockpit withtout your knowledge (like the logbook)



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Msg ID: 2812632 Keep it with you! Logbook, iPad, Helmet, NVGs etc +0/-1     
Author:OP
4/25/2024 8:24:21 AM

Reply to: 2812552

It's good to get a little representative cross section of what a few others are doing. 


Thanks for the actual good advice.  I am just as surprised as the rest of us. 🤣



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Msg ID: 2812639 Keep it with you! Logbook, iPad, Helmet, NVGs etc +0/-1     
Author:wut does dis mean
4/25/2024 11:10:10 AM

Reply to: 2812552

"If you leave something, like the logbook, or EFB, or helmet, inevidably you will find yourself sitting in in the acft ready to start with something missing, or taking off with something missing."

If you forget something you will have forgotten something? Maybe. 



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Msg ID: 2812641 Keep it with you! Logbook, iPad, Helmet, NVGs etc +1/-1     
Author:I remember that one time
4/25/2024 11:24:34 AM

Reply to: 2812639

I could not figure out why I had no comms after take off. after 15 minutes I realized I forgot my helmet. 



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Msg ID: 2812643 Keep it with you! Logbook, iPad, Helmet, NVGs etc +0/-1     
Author:it's true
4/25/2024 11:45:37 AM

Reply to: 2812639

if you forgot something, it is "enevidable" you will have left something behind and find yourself sitting in the aircraft without it. I can't argue.



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Msg ID: 2812647 and its better than taking off finding out it isn't in the acft +0/-1     
Author:because someone else took it ...
4/25/2024 12:42:55 PM

Reply to: 2812643
.. without your knowledge! out if sight, out of mind. if you have everything with you, it won't surprise you later that it was taken without your knowledge. Same principle as "cocking" the aircraft switches, inevitably someone will move/reset your switches when you didn't know a our it.


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Msg ID: 2812654 and its better than taking off finding out it isn't in the acft +0/-1     
Author:yeah
4/25/2024 2:02:48 PM

Reply to: 2812647

you sound like one squared away dude



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Msg ID: 2812682 And you don't! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
4/25/2024 7:45:16 PM

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