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Msg ID: 2809957 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +3/-10     
Author:Professional Pilot
3/14/2024 10:34:00 PM

0-200ft is Low Level

200-500ft is local area altitude

500-1000ft is cross country

1000ft-above is emergency altitudes for IIMC

 

Just look at the tailboom-separated pilot. He was at cross country altitudes and made it! 

DT



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Msg ID: 2809958 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +2/-6     
Author:Heli pilot
3/14/2024 11:14:37 PM

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Looks like reasonable charting to me.



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Msg ID: 2809960 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes (NT) +0/-1     
Author:close
3/15/2024 2:31:36 AM

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Msg ID: 2809961 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +5/-1     
Author:one more
3/15/2024 6:00:16 AM

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the op's: minus 10. parents basement



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Msg ID: 2809962 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +1/-3     
Author:Too low is dangereous
3/15/2024 7:11:23 AM

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What an idiot. You need to look at the Height Velocity Diagram. Also study Part 135 minimum altitudes.



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Msg ID: 2809963 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
3/15/2024 7:13:52 AM

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Seriously?



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Msg ID: 2809967 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +1/-1     
Author:Scrounge pilot
3/15/2024 8:14:42 AM

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 Fly however you want. cruising I'll pick a height with plenty of room above typical wire supporting structure heights. 



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Msg ID: 2809968 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +3/-1     
Author:Agreed but I use
3/15/2024 8:43:32 AM

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<500 low level

500-1000 local

>1000 cross country

>3000 IFR

any emergency = land asap ; giving untrained crew the EP checklist is a distraction 

my opinion, open to others



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Msg ID: 2809973 Paranoid much? +3/-1     
Author:old guy
3/15/2024 10:28:29 AM

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If you are really, really concerned about a catastrophic failure in a helicopter, perhaps you're in the wrong line of work. Find something safer.



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Msg ID: 2809976 Paranoid much? +2/-2     
Author:Tend
3/15/2024 11:22:49 AM

Reply to: 2809973

to agree though the OP is thinking, which is good.  On starting my retirement type HEMS job 20 years ago the medical types were horrified I would fly above 1000'AGL.  The local management had them frightened to death about transmission failures thus this group of pilots flew low making all sorts of noise to the base surround garnering noise complaints, a lot of noise complaints.  Defusing that one was really annoying.

That said the OP should trust training and get on with figuring out how to safely put the helicopter to work.  Obsessing always closes productive initiatives.



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Msg ID: 2809978 Paranoid much? +0/-7     
Author:say wut
3/15/2024 11:33:39 AM

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obsessing always closes productive initiatives

lol somebody needs to whip your dumbaass



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Msg ID: 2810146 Paranoid much? +1/-1     
Author:Anonymous
3/17/2024 2:34:04 PM

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first tough girl 🧒 



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Msg ID: 2810149 Paranoid much? +0/-1     
Author:what really happened
3/17/2024 2:49:11 PM

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you got run off after a week after you creeped everybody out. lol



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Msg ID: 2810152 Paranoid much? +0/-1     
Author:say wut
3/17/2024 3:30:43 PM

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"The local management had them frightened to death about transmission failures" 




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Msg ID: 2810155 Paranoid much? +0/-2     
Author:too good not to repost
3/17/2024 3:48:33 PM

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lol




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Msg ID: 2810176 Paranoid much? +1/-0     
Author:Definitely
3/17/2024 10:39:34 PM

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helicopter pilot IQ.  And you wonder why the low pay and high turnover in this  industry.  Oh, that's it, English as a second language.  Quite the struggle.  Could care less petunia.



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Msg ID: 2809981 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +0/-1     
Author:Engine Failure
3/15/2024 11:51:27 AM

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Its not just Tail seperation. What about engine failure. 200-500' may not be enough.

 

https://verticalmag.com/features/understanding-the-dead-mans-curve/



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Msg ID: 2809992 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +2/-1     
Author:oldNtired
3/15/2024 3:52:28 PM

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You "Bros" ever fly in the mountains ?  Do you adhere to VFR altitudes +/- 500' ?  do you always fly at an altitude to give you a better chance in the event of a failure.  Do you even enjoy flying.  Its all common sense and experience and what your comfortable with.  

 IMO as for the pilot and people that survived the tailboom failure,  I don't think there was as much skill as luck and the grace of God.  Which ever you believe in.  I think they were very close to impact and rotation slung the tail boom JUST prior to impact.  It may have broke and was flopping but it was still there. In my experience, serious injury or death takes place with the centrifugal loads created by the CG and rotational loads prior to impact with complete loss of the tailboom.  The impact just finishes it.  Regardless, I am glad they all survived and I'm sure the pilot was doing the best he could and its a good lesson to all:  Fly it too impact !!!!

Just to stay in curmudgeon mode,  The new Rotor publication is a great advertisement platform but for content: too many people, acronyms and suits.  Just my 1 cents worth.  I'm retired, I don't have 2 cents anymore.    

 



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Msg ID: 2809996 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +0/-2     
Author:say wut
3/15/2024 5:02:40 PM

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luck and god saved their lives lol retard



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Msg ID: 2809999 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +0/-1     
Author:I’m glad they all survived he says
3/15/2024 5:35:11 PM

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unlike some other people that wished they all got killed I guess. 



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Msg ID: 2810582 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +0/-0     
Author:Good input.
3/24/2024 9:55:25 AM

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About tailboom stuff, I had a 135 training captain put in a boatload of left pedal as a stuck pedal problem while 'zipping' along at 120 knots to which I asked if he was of mind to separate the tail boom.  Definitely in the area of test pilot parameters when doing that stuff.  We agreed to knock it off.

Not to be deterred he persisted at other operations to find cracks in the tail boom just forward of the horizontal stab and at the lower part of the vertical fin.  The practice stopped.  What happens when training pilots do not understand what they are doing.  

Some things best left to the simulators. 

 



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Msg ID: 2810673 Classification of helicopter flying altitudes +0/-0     
Author:say wut
3/25/2024 5:19:12 PM

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that wouldn't be a stuck pedal since that's not where the pedal is in cruise. I don't know what you were doing but that ain't no stuck pedal:



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Msg ID: 2810674 If you were taking off heavy from an LZ, that's where the pedal (NT) +0/-0     
Author:would be!
3/25/2024 5:31:30 PM

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Msg ID: 2811561 If you were taking off heavy from an LZ, that's where the pedal (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Not at 120KIAS...
4/9/2024 5:50:22 PM

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