| Msg ID: 2806435 |
Hill Helicopters +1/-1
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| Author:1000 ordered?
2/29/2024 10:45:46 AM |
This one is a real head scratcher. Who buys an aircraft that's never flown? |
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| Msg ID: 2806436 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-1
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| Author:Anaheim
2/29/2024 11:16:59 AM Reply to: 2806435 |
Not buying a helicopter, selling their spot in line... |
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| Msg ID: 2806438 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-0
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| Author:Who now?
2/29/2024 11:34:09 AM Reply to: 2806435 |
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| Msg ID: 2806439 |
Hill Helicopters +1/-1
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| Author:No one
2/29/2024 11:35:54 AM Reply to: 2806435 |
It's vaporware and I doubt it will ever get to market. If it does, it'll be triple the price point they're aiming for. No way they develop and sell that thing for $900,000. |
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| Msg ID: 2806440 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-0
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| Author:Will they be IFR capable?
2/29/2024 11:37:28 AM Reply to: 2806435 |
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| Msg ID: 2806455 |
Hill Helicopters +2/-1
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| Author:XTP
2/29/2024 3:17:34 PM Reply to: 2806440 |
If one could produce a turbine single at that price with those specs, Bell, Robinson, Airbus & Leonardo would have been all over it for years. There are rules of physics and economics that do not bend for anyone. After that there is the CAA/FAA R-66 is about $950K. Hill is going to cost less and cruise faster, further with a new design engine, 260 gals of fuel and a standard 2 axis autopilot? If he can get it certified, he wil lose money on every one he sells at that price. |
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| Msg ID: 2806462 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-1
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| Author:XTP
2/29/2024 5:22:34 PM Reply to: 2806455 |
175 gals fuel. Misread fuel vs. Useful load. |
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| Msg ID: 2806497 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-0
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| Author:Apples to oranges
3/1/2024 2:35:29 PM Reply to: 2806455 |
Hill is designing an experimental category aircraft, so you can't use a standard category aircraft like the R66 as a cost comparison. That would be like comparing the Hummingbird (S-52 replica), an experimental 'home-build' kit to the R44. The Hummingbird costs about $350k for the kit, engine and assembly while a new R44 is closer to $600k. |
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| Msg ID: 2806498 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-1
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| Author:both
3/1/2024 3:12:37 PM Reply to: 2806497 |
Designing a kit and certified version. |
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| Msg ID: 2806445 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-1
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| Author:Anaheim
2/29/2024 12:16:45 PM Reply to: 2806435 |
There aren't 1000 buyers, there are 1000 people selling their spot in line. |
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| Msg ID: 2806471 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-1
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| Author:Verticon
2/29/2024 7:25:06 PM Reply to: 2806435 |
There's not 1000 buyers. There's 1000 people trying to sell their place in line and pocket $50-100K |
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| Msg ID: 2806477 |
Hill Helicopters +1/-1
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| Author:Happens all the time
2/29/2024 9:51:49 PM Reply to: 2806435 |
Operators will put minimun down to reserve a line number, then sell the number for a higher price when production happens. |
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| Msg ID: 2806490 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-2
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| Author:lawyer
3/1/2024 11:16:14 AM Reply to: 2806435 |
This is a pipe dream. 1000 people are going to lose $. I see no provision for product liability. First law suit for $100,000,000 and the party is over. |
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| Msg ID: 2806526 |
Hill Helicopters +0/-1
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| Author:Utility slugg
3/2/2024 2:34:01 AM Reply to: 2806435 |
Damn thing ain't even got a cargo hook. |
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| Msg ID: 2806575 |
Hill Helicopters +2/-1
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| Author:Do some research
3/3/2024 2:43:37 AM Reply to: 2806526 |
It has hard points to attach a variety of equipment. |
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