Msg ID:
2805375 |
Birds are attracted TO lights, not repelled by lights +5/-5
|
Author:Audobon Society research
2/15/2024 7:07:53 AM
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdMnztQSDvg
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805380 |
Birds are attracted TO lights, not repelled by lights +0/-2
|
Author:wrong
2/15/2024 9:45:18 AM
Reply to: 2805375
|
its all about lighting from large metopolitan areas. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805389 |
so, the study in the planetarium was about large metropolitan lights? +0/-1
|
Author:or, just lights?
2/15/2024 12:40:55 PM
Reply to: 2805380
|
proud to be a critical thinker! |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805391 |
Birds are attracted TO lights, not repelled by lights +0/-1
|
Author:Load71
2/15/2024 12:49:43 PM
Reply to: 2805380
|
Use your Pulse lights.
Birds do confuse building light as terrestrial lights. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805394 |
why pulse lights? What legitimate study shows this as beneficial?? (NT) +0/-1
|
Author:Anonymous
2/15/2024 12:53:12 PM
Reply to: 2805391
|
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805397 |
why pulse lights? What legitimate study shows this as beneficial?? +0/-1
|
Author:Load71
2/15/2024 1:10:46 PM
Reply to: 2805394
|
Haven't you seen bird deterrents sold at hardware stores?
Check out these articles, same principle:
How Flashing Lights on Cell Towers Can Save Birds’ Lives | Audubon
12 Best Bird Deterrents That Actually Work (2022) - World Birds
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805411 |
Yeah, they sell scare crows too! They will sell anything to anyone. +0/-1
|
Author:But, what science is behind it??
2/15/2024 4:27:04 PM
Reply to: 2805397
|
The article doesn't really cite any science, other than a general statement from someone with a university affiliation. Where is the study?? All I see is someone pushing to have LED lights installed by an LED advocate and an LED or-else federal administration chief.
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805413 |
Yeah, they sell scare crows too! They will sell anything to anyone. +1/-1
|
Author:oldNtired
2/15/2024 4:54:05 PM
Reply to: 2805411
|
Mount a fake Owl on the vertical fin. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805436 |
Birds are attracted TO lights, not repelled by lights +1/-1
|
Author:Yyy
2/15/2024 8:59:26 PM
Reply to: 2805391
|
pulse whites are your best friend at night |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805472 |
Birds are attracted TO lights, not repelled by lights +0/-1
|
Author:trust
2/16/2024 2:06:18 PM
Reply to: 2805436
|
the science |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805488 |
What "science"? What studies have been done to show pulse lights (NT) +0/-0
|
Author:repel birds from impacting aircraft
2/16/2024 9:35:54 PM
Reply to: 2805472
|
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805491 |
Here's a scientific study: +1/-0
|
Author:Anonymous
2/16/2024 11:26:58 PM
Reply to: 2805472
|
Our findings indicate that 250- W landing lights, mounted on a moving ground- based vehicle and pulsed at 45 cycles/min or not pulsed, elicit little to no avoidance response in European starlings, mourning doves, Canada geese, and herring gulls.
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=icwdm_usdanwrc
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805498 |
Birds are attracted TO lights, not repelled by lights +2/-0
|
Author:When
2/17/2024 6:29:03 AM
Reply to: 2805375
|
"lights on below 10,000 feet" was implemented back in the 70s bird strikes plummeted. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805507 |
why do folks post something from someone else and not cite the source? (NT) +0/-1
|
Author:who said that? what scientific study?
2/17/2024 7:50:51 AM
Reply to: 2805498
|
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805508 |
why do folks post something from someone else and not cite the source? +0/-0
|
Author:If you don’t
2/17/2024 8:34:26 AM
Reply to: 2805507
|
believe it, leave your lights off. You'll probably save some fuel by not having to produce the power to run the bulbs.
Everyone is so contrary regardless of the subject. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805510 |
and maybe safe from having to do a precautionary (NT) +1/-0
|
Author:from a bird attracted to your lights?
2/17/2024 8:49:59 AM
Reply to: 2805508
|
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805511 |
and maybe safe from having to do a precautionary +0/-1
|
Author:don’t you have to actually
2/17/2024 8:56:01 AM
Reply to: 2805510
|
hit the bird to do a precautionary |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805512 |
right, and turning them off might help to prevent such a thing +0/-1
|
Author:more then leaving them on
2/17/2024 9:12:05 AM
Reply to: 2805511
|
That's the questions, which is better based on SCIENCE, not guts (get it, guts, all over the cockpit) |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805665 |
right, and turning them off might help to prevent such a thing +0/-0
|
Author:Ridiculous
2/18/2024 5:54:56 PM
Reply to: 2805512
|
Why do airlin shave the policy of lights on below 10k? This is a moronic discussion. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805684 |
So other GA pilots can see them! (NT) +1/-0
|
Author:Was nothing to do with birds!
2/19/2024 5:36:00 AM
Reply to: 2805665
|
|
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805520 |
and maybe safe from having to do a precautionary +0/-0
|
Author:olderendirt
2/17/2024 2:35:42 PM
Reply to: 2805511
|
hit the bird to do a precautionary
Nope. One may decide to land to prevent the scenario from continuing. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805783 |
and maybe safe from having to do a precautionary +0/-0
|
Author:say wut
2/21/2024 7:55:31 AM
Reply to: 2805520
|
that would be an awesome aidmor: there were so so many birds I landed in a field. there was nothing else I could do. patient transported the rest of the way by ground. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805533 |
why do folks post something from someone else and not cite the source? +1/-0
|
Author:Do ur
2/17/2024 4:33:23 PM
Reply to: 2805507
|
own homework. Lazy buggah! |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|
Msg ID:
2805977 |
why do folks post something from someone else and not cite the source? +1/-0
|
Author:If only
2/23/2024 11:16:58 AM
Reply to: 2805533
|
children would listen to adults, eh?! They'd be spared huge grief. But, not to be. Arrogance in action. |
|
Reply Return-To-Index
|