| Msg ID: 2805074 |
Yet another helicopter crash +0/-1
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| Author:TXRon
2/10/2024 12:49:21 PM |
https://abcnews.go.com/US/survivors-helicopter-crash-mojave-desert-sheriff/story?id=107125291
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| Msg ID: 2805083 |
Yet another helicopter crash +0/-0
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| Author:RIP
2/10/2024 5:15:21 PM Reply to: 2805074 |
Sad! |
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| Msg ID: 2805095 |
Yet another helicopter crash +0/-0
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| Author:EC130
2/10/2024 8:32:30 PM Reply to: 2805074 |
Just heard all 6 on board parished. It's been a bad and sad month! |
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| Msg ID: 2805097 |
Yet another helicopter crash +3/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
2/10/2024 9:09:49 PM Reply to: 2805074 |
Always the first question what was the current weather at the time? |
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| Msg ID: 2805231 |
Yet another helicopter crash +0/-1
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| Author:Snow
2/12/2024 9:05:42 PM Reply to: 2805097 |
and rain. |
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| Msg ID: 2805106 |
Another IIMC CFIT +6/-4
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| Author:Helicopter pilots are dumb
2/10/2024 11:52:40 PM Reply to: 2805074 |
History is something helicopter pilots rarely study. Night time, no references, mountainous terrain, black as black can be, likely no NVG's, less than favorable ceilings, probably no autopilot, and to top it off VFR. |
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| Msg ID: 2805134 |
Another IIMC CFIT +3/-1
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| Author:Happy Retired
2/11/2024 11:16:23 AM Reply to: 2805106 |
A very foolish decision indeed. |
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| Msg ID: 2805156 |
ANOTHER WARRANT OFFICER. +0/-0
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| Author:Doubt it
2/11/2024 3:19:25 PM Reply to: 2805140 |
A Warrant Officer pilot would have completed a rotation at the NTC During his/her career. That's the same area that this crash occurred in. No one flies in this area without NVG's. It's dark at night with no illumination. The "Warrant" would have turned this turd down. These folks were following the freeway with 2% moon illumination at night in marginal weather. Absolutly a civilian trained pilot. BTW, NTSB briefing stated a PIC and a "Safety pilot" were onboard. Smells like a 135 operation that also trains pilots by having them fly 135 flights with a "Safety pilot" onboard as the actual PIC. Just saying. |
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| Msg ID: 2805190 |
Another IIMC CFIT +3/-5
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| Author:Really, Nostradamus?
2/12/2024 12:04:26 PM Reply to: 2805106 |
How would you know? Crazy assertions like that prove only that you don't do your study. Helicopter flying is far more complicated in decision making than other forms of aviation.
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| Msg ID: 2805212 |
Another IIMC CFIT +0/-6
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| Author:IIMC
2/12/2024 5:33:49 PM Reply to: 2805106 |
Straight into the ground...the Nigerian banker had to make it to the SuperBowl to give away millions of dollars. Really sucks that the pilots were pressured into flying. |
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| Msg ID: 2805222 |
Another IIMC CFIT +7/-1
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| Author:Blame the PAX?
2/12/2024 7:57:55 PM Reply to: 2805212 |
The passenger is responsible for all aspects of the flight.... Says no regulation. The PILOTS had no business flying an EC-130B4, at night, in the High Desert, in mixed precipitation, regardless of what the NTSB ultimately determines to be the cause. If the pilots succumbed to pressure, then shame on them and our entire community for not standing up for what is right. |
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| Msg ID: 2805260 |
Another IIMC CFIT +2/-4
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| Author:Maybe...
2/13/2024 3:54:53 PM Reply to: 2805222 |
Just maybe, flight schools should start teaching pilots proper ADM...you can still tell the girls at the bar you're a pilot if you refuse a flight...HEMS guys do it all the time when they would rather sleep at night. OOS. |
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| Msg ID: 2805261 |
Another IIMC CFIT +1/-1
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| Author:turning down a flight does
2/13/2024 4:28:14 PM Reply to: 2805260 |
not mean you're OOS bro |
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| Msg ID: 2805265 |
Another IIMC CFIT +1/-1
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| Author:yeah
2/13/2024 6:02:49 PM Reply to: 2805260 |
all we have to do is teach crm and that would be the end of accidents. why didn't anybody else think of that |
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| Msg ID: 2805120 |
What company or organization? +2/-1
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| Author:Tour Company
2/11/2024 9:35:52 AM Reply to: 2805108 |
Orbicair.com .. they have taken site offline. |
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| Msg ID: 2805179 |
What company or organization? +0/-1
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| Author:time machine
2/11/2024 11:34:45 PM Reply to: 2805120 |
Helicopter Rides Los Angeles | Helicopter Charter Los Angeles | Helicopter Tours LA (archive.org) |
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