Msg ID:
2804339 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +10/-15
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Author:Here's why
1/30/2024 9:42:21 AM
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HAA Pilots today would be crying in the corner if they had to take a flight like we did 20 years ago in this industry. They cry an dbarely hack it today and its the safest and easiest flying it has ever been, and only getting easier.
1) Automation. Autopilots and Stabilization. The machine flys you.
2) GPS. Outside the traffic pattern or your tour route you would be lost without it. We used to only have TDH.
3) NVG's. Try doing this in zero illumination, searchight (nightsun if lucky) in marginal weather, mountainous terrain....You only see that on youtube and Call of Duty.
4) Advanced Weather Reporting. We used to lift and check weather.
5) OCC to check on you and follow your every move
6) "Pre-designated" LZ's everywhere.
This generatin is spoiled and has everything they need to be safe while their workload is 10x less than it was. There is no reason to be paid as much as we are in this industry. We deserve LESS because we are doing LESS!
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Msg ID:
2804340 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +15/-2
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Author:Fun
1/30/2024 9:46:29 AM
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OK Grandpa, time for bed. |
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Msg ID:
2804342 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +3/-0
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Author:Remember
1/30/2024 10:12:14 AM
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when automobiles had barley lit incandescent head lights/ No hi beams/fog/driving lights, drum rear only brakes, no rack & pinion steering, no front shocks/struts or rear coil overs, No defroster/A/C/power brakes/power steering/power windows, heated/power seats & steering wheel, NO turn signals/4 way flashers, no rear view mirrors on either door! Oh the horror. How did ANYONE drive & survive 🤔🤷♂️🤪
With all this new tech how come there's still CFIT happening then pops??? |
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Msg ID:
2804346 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +2/-0
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Author:say wut
1/30/2024 10:59:47 AM
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I guess flying airplanes has gotten easier too. they have gps and autopilots! I wonder if their pay has gone down. lol bro |
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Msg ID:
2804350 |
No. Because they actually fly and dont sleep all shift. (NT) +1/-2
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Author:LESS PAY FOR HELO PILOTS!!!
1/30/2024 11:23:54 AM
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Msg ID:
2804349 |
Because this new generation of pilots dont know how to actually fly +3/-0
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Author:co-dependency on automation
1/30/2024 11:23:05 AM
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CFIT and IIMC has gone up, not down because of you robbie rangers and tour-menters of souls. |
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Msg ID:
2804351 |
I agree. Helicopter Pilots in HAA are WAY overpaid as it is. (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Especially the IFR ones. Too Easy!
1/30/2024 11:26:03 AM
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Msg ID:
2804352 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +5/-1
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Author:20 years ago was 2004 bro
1/30/2024 11:33:53 AM
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next time say 40 years ago since we had all that stuff before that. lol bro ayfkm |
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Msg ID:
2804354 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +4/-0
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Author:Young old guy
1/30/2024 11:36:45 AM
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Ive been flying HAA since 2006 and am more than happy to have all
the help we have now. I've seen most of the things you mention and some you didn't; HTAWS, NVG's, single engine automation, TCAS, foreflight, satelite tracking, OCC's etc etc come to be the norm. Unfortunately we are really good at crashing aircraft and all this has largely come about as a result of those tragedies.
Could I and did I do the job safely without it all? Sure! However, I'm more than happy to have the help. It's working smarter not harder. YMMV. |
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Msg ID:
2804357 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +2/-0
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Author:btw
1/30/2024 11:47:49 AM
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how often are we going to re-run this dumb thread bro |
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Msg ID:
2804360 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +1/-1
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Author:just about time for another
1/30/2024 12:00:30 PM
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amc union thread about they did you dirty. haven't seen one in at least a couple days |
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Msg ID:
2804361 |
I was done dirty by a company that does and does not have a union (NT) +0/-0
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Author:per the below request
1/30/2024 12:07:05 PM
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Msg ID:
2804362 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +2/-0
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Author:if you think you're paid too much
1/30/2024 12:16:01 PM
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you probably are. lol |
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Msg ID:
2804376 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +1/-1
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Author:Retired alivr
1/30/2024 1:43:05 PM
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did not mention going to a scene call or a different hospital use a rad McNally road map or a county street map.
A time for real men |
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Msg ID:
2804377 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +0/-2
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Author:say wut
1/30/2024 1:56:37 PM
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I bet you were lost a lot bro |
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Msg ID:
2804380 |
1995 EMS +1/-2
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Author:Dead Reckoner
1/30/2024 2:20:31 PM
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Single pilot VFR had IIMC. Flew the NDB approach back to the airport. Single needle ADF with DME and no autopilot. I had to change the flight suit after that one. Med crew treated me like a God for a few weeks after that :-)
https://www.cfinotebook.net/notebook/avionics-and-instruments/non-directional-radio-beacon
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Msg ID:
2804381 |
1995 EMS +3/-1
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Author:Sad
1/30/2024 2:23:38 PM
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Even with all this automation and safety features the ambulance drivers of the air still manage to crash all the time. Maybe pilots just lack overall skill? Or penciled whipped their time to get the job. |
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Msg ID:
2804382 |
1995 EMS +0/-2
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Author:what really happened
1/30/2024 2:36:59 PM
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the med crews were scared to death of you after that for almost killing them |
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Msg ID:
2804383 |
1995 EMS +0/-1
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Author:only one needle
1/30/2024 2:38:28 PM
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how many needles you need bro |
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Msg ID:
2804395 |
1995 EMS +2/-1
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Author:Anonymous
1/30/2024 4:17:09 PM
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sounds like just one.
wonder if one will be enough when you get your chance? |
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Msg ID:
2804398 |
1995 EMS +0/-1
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Author:huh
1/30/2024 4:28:00 PM
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would two be better? |
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Msg ID:
2804402 |
1995 EMS +2/-1
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Author:Don't
1/30/2024 4:34:23 PM
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even tender an answer to the 80's mullet "BroBoy" Total tool who think's he's all that,when in fact he's just a hack wantta be! Lives for the interweb He & Al "the sky is falling 80's" Gore!! |
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Msg ID:
2804888 |
1995 EMS +0/-0
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Author:Don’t
2/6/2024 11:30:22 PM
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go overseas flying offshore. You'll be changing often. |
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Msg ID:
2804408 |
It's never been a hard job. Sky Pilots here make +1/-1
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Author:it sound tougher than it really is
1/30/2024 5:08:05 PM
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Pardon me while I go iron my fight suite and put some really cool decals on my helmet. Anybody know whee I can get a discount on a buffet tonight? |
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Msg ID:
2804456 |
It's never been a hard job. Sky Pilots here make +0/-1
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Author:no, not hard but
1/31/2024 8:06:02 AM
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night shifts suck and mistakes can kill you |
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Msg ID:
2804459 |
So can walking across the street and choking on a food (NT) +2/-5
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Author:Guess we are all heroes...
1/31/2024 8:10:29 AM
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Msg ID:
2804500 |
So can walking across the street and choking on a food +0/-1
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Author:for you I could see how
1/31/2024 11:59:36 AM
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walking and eating could be dangerous lol |
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Msg ID:
2804885 |
HAA is EASIER than EVER! WE should be paid less than we make now +0/-0
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Author:Yeah
2/6/2024 11:24:49 PM
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I remember doing a medevac in a Bell 47 in Korea at night. And all that other stuff.
Just because helicopters become faster and more capable doesn't mean they are not going to be tasked to do what they are capable of doing. In almost 50 years of helicopter flying the only thing I discovered was doing more as tech evolved. Not necessarily easier or less dangerous. All helicopter flying can kill ya, just let ur guard down and see what happens. |
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