| Msg ID: 2801551 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +1/-0
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| Author:Torque events.
12/22/2023 8:46:43 AM |
Are pick up and set downs Tq events ? Hover auto practice ? OR only when you go thru ETL ?
Whopping 5 hrs on this new GXI
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| Msg ID: 2801553 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +0/-2
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| Author:what does the manual say
12/22/2023 8:52:32 AM Reply to: 2801551 |
do that. |
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| Msg ID: 2801554 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Fun one at party’s I bet. Smh
12/22/2023 8:58:45 AM Reply to: 2801553 |
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| Msg ID: 2801556 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +3/-1
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| Author:Other bells
12/22/2023 9:52:11 AM Reply to: 2801551 |
On every other bell I've flown a takeoff or external load was a torque event. I've not flown the gxi however. |
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| Msg ID: 2801557 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +0/-1
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| Author:nobody
12/22/2023 9:55:35 AM Reply to: 2801551 |
Doesnt the GX record events on the flight report that comes on shutdown? |
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| Msg ID: 2801558 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +1/-4
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| Author:it should now be apparent
12/22/2023 10:06:30 AM Reply to: 2801557 |
why you should go to the flight or mx manual and bypass retard central |
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| Msg ID: 2801567 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:It's only a lot of reading if you do it.
12/22/2023 2:02:23 PM Reply to: 2801558 |
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| Msg ID: 2801562 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +4/-1
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| Author:from 407 rfm
12/22/2023 11:31:55 AM Reply to: 2801551 |
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| Msg ID: 2801564 |
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| Author:that appears
12/22/2023 1:33:52 PM Reply to: 2801562 |
to be a page out of the eagle 407 conversion manual |
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| Msg ID: 2801565 |
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| Author:from 407 rfm take#2
12/22/2023 1:45:03 PM Reply to: 2801564 |
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| Msg ID: 2801574 |
What’s their definition of a take off ? MD says ETL. (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Hovering should not be a TO tq Ev
12/22/2023 3:46:31 PM Reply to: 2801565 |
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| Msg ID: 2801576 |
What’s their definition of a take off ? MD says ETL. +0/-0
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| Author:Undefined, but...
12/22/2023 4:00:17 PM Reply to: 2801574 |
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| Msg ID: 2801668 |
Takeoff, eh? You hoser! Ka cook-ooh-ooh, ka cook-ooh- ohh! (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:Great White North
12/24/2023 5:35:55 PM Reply to: 2801576 |
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| Msg ID: 2801689 |
12 Days Of Christmas +0/-0
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| Author:You hosers!
12/25/2023 11:35:19 AM Reply to: 2801668 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DTwLqR071M
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| Msg ID: 2801575 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +0/-0
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| Author:GXi Maint. Manual
12/22/2023 3:52:26 PM Reply to: 2801551 |
From the maintenance manual: Retirement Index Number (RIN). Components sensitive to operational events, such as torque events or run-on landings, are assigned a maximum RIN number. This number is based on the fatigue damage that results from normal helicopter lifts and takeoffs (torque events) or from run-on landings, whichever applies. New components will begin with an accumulated RIN of zero, which will increase as the helicopter is subjected to torque events or run-on landings. The operator must record the number of torque events or run-on landings, and increase the accumulated RIN as directed. When a component reaches the maximum RIN or retirement flight hours, whichever occurs first, the component must be retired from service
For every one torque event, you add one RIN to the previous total. A torque event occurs for every takeoff (one takeoff plus the subsequent landing equals one RIN) and every load lift. A load lift (internal or external) may be defined as a sling load, a rescue hoist load or any load that is added to the helicopter while airborne. For example: if an operator performs one takeoff, picks up and drops 10 sling loads, and then lands, he must record 11 torque events.
For every one run-on landing, you add one RIN to the previous total. A run-on landing is defined as one where there is forward ground travel of the helicopter greater than 3 feet with the weight on the skids. |
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| Msg ID: 2801577 |
Maybe bell should say what a take off is. That ETL or that just a hover. (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Poor definition- MD500 must be past ETL.
12/22/2023 4:00:53 PM Reply to: 2801575 |
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| Msg ID: 2801580 |
Maybe bell should say what a take off is. That ETL or that just a hover. (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Poor definition- MD500 must be past ETL.
12/22/2023 5:12:45 PM Reply to: 2801575 |
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| Msg ID: 2801586 |
Maybe bell should say what a take off is. That ETL or that just a hover. +3/-1
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| Author:Bell does define what a
12/22/2023 7:32:37 PM Reply to: 2801580 |
torque event is...you just don't agree with it. Your concurrence isn't relevant to the definition. DISMISSED! |
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| Msg ID: 2801585 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +0/-2
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| Author:Anonymous
12/22/2023 7:23:13 PM Reply to: 2801551 |
The correct answer is, "Who cares?". |
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| Msg ID: 2801608 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +0/-0
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| Author:oldNtired
12/23/2023 1:21:05 PM Reply to: 2801585 |
Back in the early Bell 214 days, when the 214 got into the logging program (most of the old guys know the history) the Bell longhairs (read engineer) went nuts when they found out the number of torque excursions involved in a 1 hr. logging cycle. It seems Bell had based the aircraft certification on 2 touque excursions per hr. (take 0ff and landing. I don't remember all the details but it was interesting. It seems they are re-inventing the wheel. |
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| Msg ID: 2801612 |
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| Author:BigT
12/23/2023 2:48:09 PM Reply to: 2801551 |
This thread reads like the NFL trying to determine just what is a "catch" and what is not a "catch". Some things are just apparent. |
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| Msg ID: 2801854 |
Bell guys ? Factory guys ? +0/-0
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| Author:Bell Guy
12/29/2023 6:29:44 PM Reply to: 2801551 |
Bell guy here. The definitions presented here from Bell manuals are the correct answers. |
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