| Msg ID: 2801313 |
Local 109 Seniority: A change in the wording opens +0/-1
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| Author:seniority list issue?
12/17/2023 8:47:39 AM |
The new contract changed a word in the pilot bidding seniority list that should reshuffle the entire list. The old language was (italicized for emphasis): "Bidding Seniority - Biddin Seniority shall be defined as a Pilot's length of uninterrupted Pilot credited service with the Company..." The new language is (italicized for emphasis): "Bidding Seniority - Biddin Seniority shall be defined as a Pilot's cumulative length of Pilot credited service with the Company..." So, before, if you worked for the company and left, then came back, you started over in bidding seniority instead of cutting back in. And, now, according to the contract, you get to leave and come back keeping all your cumulative pilot service from before. That means, anyone who left the company in the past, can come back ahead of many. For instance, say you go worked for the company for 8 years, and then quit to work for a competative company for 3 years. Then, things aren't working out for you and you decide to come back. The company then rehires you and you get to keep all your 8 years of seniority to go on the bidding seniority list 8 years above all those who stayed or hired on after you. But, the real question is, now that the language is concrete, can everyone who rehired on after they left have their bidding seniority adjusted to match the new contract language?? Are those pilot's being credited now for their cumulative pilot service, when before they were not? How are those who started over at the bottom being addressed? |
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| Msg ID: 2801314 |
Same is true with Company Seniority definition! +0/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
12/17/2023 9:02:03 AM Reply to: 2801313 |
There is a new word inserted in the definition of Company Seniority (italicized).
Company Seniority – Company Seniority shall be defined as a Pilot's cumulative length of
That was not part of the definition previously. So, does that mean every pilot who rehired now have to have his previous cumulative length of service time with the company factored into his pay scale when it wasn't before? Should he be able to enter the pay scale with that time credited? Or, will that only apply to rehires moving forward? There are a good number of pilots who rehired at the bottom that this affects. How is their Company Seniority being considered under the new definition? |
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| Msg ID: 2801321 |
Local 109 Seniority: A change in the wording opens +1/-2
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| Author:It’s such a shame
12/17/2023 9:31:39 AM Reply to: 2801313 |
that socialist unions keep people from going on with their lives in a normal manner. |
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| Msg ID: 2801336 |
Local 109 Seniority: A change in the wording opens +0/-3
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| Author:What does it matter?
12/17/2023 3:04:39 PM Reply to: 2801313 |
If Joe Schmoe comes and takes your precious place in BFE, Idaho who cares if he had 10 years of uninterrupted seniority or 9 years + 1 year? |
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| Msg ID: 2801343 |
It matters when 3, 4, or 5 are bidding for an ideal location! (NT) +2/-0
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| Author:(that finally opens up)
12/17/2023 5:02:07 PM Reply to: 2801336 |
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| Msg ID: 2801350 |
It matters when 3, 4, or 5 are bidding for an ideal location! +1/-0
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| Author:There are no ideal locations
12/17/2023 9:33:35 PM Reply to: 2801343 |
Unless it's a hospital based program. Then, bidding senority means nothing. |
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| Msg ID: 2801365 |
What makes an HBS ideal? Wost places I've worked were HBS locations! (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:Nothing but trouble!
12/18/2023 8:26:08 AM Reply to: 2801350 |
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| Msg ID: 2801397 |
What makes an HBS ideal? Wost places I've worked were HBS locations! +0/-0
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| Author:HBS has way better locations
12/18/2023 10:33:02 PM Reply to: 2801365 |
Most community base ops are in the sticks. |
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| Msg ID: 2801461 |
Not the HBS's I've known! (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
12/20/2023 4:26:28 PM Reply to: 2801397 |
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| Msg ID: 2801508 |
Not the HBS's I've known! +0/-0
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| Author:he didn't say they were good
12/21/2023 3:35:33 PM Reply to: 2801461 |
just better and most of the time it's true |
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| Msg ID: 2801535 |
HBS's I've know were amont the FIRST to put HAA (HEMS then) in most podunk (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:places to feed their hospitals
12/21/2023 10:01:30 PM Reply to: 2801508 |
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| Msg ID: 2801802 |
And nobody cares (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Pay your dues and shut up
12/28/2023 1:32:18 PM Reply to: 2801313 |
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