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Msg ID: 2800421 Corp question +0/-3     
Author:Recent applicant
12/3/2023 9:11:35 AM

Been doing this job quite a few years. VIP, Offshore, HAA, etc. There seems to be a stigma in the Corp world that they only hire those 2nd tier folks that either did their time doing turns around Lady Liberty or suffered a few seasons in the world of share ownership. The pay is pretty damn good, recently saw an advertisement 170k to 255k. The money has never been better and it seems even they are having issues retaining pilots.

Question. Even though you find the vacancy advertised publicly, is there any point in applying unless you are in this inner circle? Is it some sort of secret society or are they really looking for the best pilot out there?

Fire away.



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Msg ID: 2800424 Corp question +2/-1     
Author:since they are advertising
12/3/2023 9:28:55 AM

Reply to: 2800421

it probably means they don't have anybody to pick from from the local club or they want someone more qualified that the 2000 hour, single engine tour pilot. Send a resume if qualified



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Msg ID: 2800426 Corp question +1/-2     
Author:also
12/3/2023 9:35:33 AM

Reply to: 2800421

don't use a word like stigma unless you can use it properly. They like to hire pilots with nyc experience and tour guys are probably right there with experience to get the SIC job. 



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Msg ID: 2800454 Corp question +1/-1     
Author:anony
12/3/2023 2:44:18 PM

Reply to: 2800426

Never say never, they do occasionally hire someone from outside the inner circle but not often.  Put in your resume and hope for the best, there are now some corp jobs that are over 300k...



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Msg ID: 2800458 Corp question +0/-2     
Author:a corporate jon over 300
12/3/2023 3:32:03 PM

Reply to: 2800454

is going to require jet experience with a type rating and some serious experience.



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Msg ID: 2800885 Corp question +0/-0     
Author:Not
12/9/2023 12:50:28 PM

Reply to: 2800458

necessarily!



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Msg ID: 2800480 Corp question +1/-2     
Author:They
12/3/2023 6:45:43 PM

Reply to: 2800421

look for competent pilots who fit their culture.  Having an inside reference or personal contact in the pilot cadre is worthwhile.  Hired a guy straight out of the USCG.  You're correct about the salaries.



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Msg ID: 2800495 Corp question +0/-0     
Author:Pfizer?
12/3/2023 10:15:01 PM

Reply to: 2800480

Would love to know the back story. 



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Msg ID: 2800513 Corp question +0/-0     
Author:salary
12/4/2023 11:16:16 AM

Reply to: 2800495

Pfizer, American Express, IBM, Merck, Mass Mutual are the big ones.



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Msg ID: 2800886 Corp question +1/-0     
Author:Nope
12/9/2023 12:53:21 PM

Reply to: 2800495

The USCG guy had NY experience, having been based at the CG station there.  And, he had me on the inside though I'd never met him.  Had a very solid reference and profile.



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Msg ID: 2801589 Corp question +0/-0     
Author:Bottom line
12/22/2023 9:51:08 PM

Reply to: 2800886

have a go, and stay in touch for future openings.  When I retired from corporate work in early 2000s my inflation adjusted in today's dollars was 330k.  Not kidding.



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Msg ID: 2800557 Corp question +0/-0     
Author:Where do they advertise
12/4/2023 9:50:32 PM

Reply to: 2800421

Where do the corp jobs get posted?



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Msg ID: 2800569 Corp question +0/-1     
Author:Company websites
12/5/2023 10:03:26 AM

Reply to: 2800557

Not always on the web



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Msg ID: 2801872 Corp question +1/-0     
Author:Corp Answer
12/30/2023 9:20:03 AM

Reply to: 2800421

What I've seen is that they like to hire their buddies that will follow their lead and not rock the boat.  They sell the myth that NYC is the toughest airspace in the world and their the top 2% of the RW world.  Funny you never hear FW guys make such a statement.  It's controlled airspace in which you fly from a known to a known.  Usually dual pilot with advanced machines and autopilot.  My expereience is that they hire to their level or less.  Disguises their incompetance.  IMO, the corporate world could use more "outsiders" and dual rated pilots.  

Corp pilots really seem to have disdain for anything over 8 hours duty day.  Listen and you'll here them tell each other how great they are and how hard their job is.  Put them in the gulf for a few weeks or in the middle of nowhere slinging trash or water.  Bet they wouldn't last 2 weeks.



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