Msg ID:
2798417 |
Crap, you guys were right +13/-0
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Author:Shame
11/10/2023 11:09:42 AM
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I was always a Local 109 fan, but god, you guys were right. Our Local 109 is pathetic and weak! AMC just owned us. |
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Msg ID:
2798421 |
Crap, you guys were right +1/-8
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Author:say wut
11/10/2023 11:51:53 AM
Reply to: 2798417
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a union is only as strong as it's members. get involved or quit crying. |
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Msg ID:
2798423 |
Crap, you guys were right +8/-1
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Author:Hahaha I was
11/10/2023 11:54:13 AM
Reply to: 2798421
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I watched our man child of a union president attack anyone who didn't agree with him. Pathetic |
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Msg ID:
2798446 |
a union is only as strong as it's members. get involved or quit crying. +3/-4
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Author:olderendirt
11/10/2023 1:33:42 PM
Reply to: 2798421
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"a union is only as strong as it's members. get involved or quit crying."
Your union reps are sacrificial victims of your weakness. Figure it out, numby- certain pilots are active in organizing a bargaining unit. Then, the leadership of the local are largely those same people. I retired 10 years ago after actively participating in organizing two company's pilots. Those few mootivated pilots willing to put their jobs on the line and do the work to organize their fellow pilots paid dearly for their effort.
Meanwhile, the number of pilots I spoke to about being active in their local whose answer was "I pay my 1%. I don't need to go to meetings, etc.'" consisted of the vast majority. They can't be bothered to attend meetings, even online. Accurately assessing the passivity of the majority, some of the organizers are terminated or otherwise punished. |
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Msg ID:
2798422 |
Feel free to leave anytime. 63% of members disagree with you (NT) +0/-8
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Author:You must be way smarter
11/10/2023 11:52:07 AM
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Msg ID:
2798424 |
Feel free to leave anytime. 63% of members disagree with you +7/-1
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Author:Hahaha hey look, another
11/10/2023 11:55:07 AM
Reply to: 2798422
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Pathetic member on the union leadership. Thanks dummies for the sh*t contract! |
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Msg ID:
2798431 |
you math is pathetic too. 82% "of the members" +0/-1
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Author:you only had 82% voting!
11/10/2023 12:40:10 PM
Reply to: 2798424
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606 is about half at best! |
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Msg ID:
2798432 |
606 is not half of the members! (NT) +1/-1
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Author:your math is pitiful!
11/10/2023 12:41:46 PM
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Msg ID:
2798427 |
Seems like a majority of pilots like the contract since they voted (NT) +0/-2
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Author:To approve by 63%
11/10/2023 12:27:12 PM
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Msg ID:
2798435 |
No, they voted yes because they said they have no fait +0/-1
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Author:in union leadership to do better
11/10/2023 12:55:40 PM
Reply to: 2798427
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big difference |
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Msg ID:
2798438 |
What’s “fait” (NT) +0/-2
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Author:Ur intelligence says u were a no
11/10/2023 1:01:28 PM
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Msg ID:
2798441 |
What’s “fait” +1/-1
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Author:Wow, you see a typo and question
11/10/2023 1:12:50 PM
Reply to: 2798438
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His level of intelligenc. thanks for showing how stupid you are |
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Msg ID:
2798499 |
Noticed your typo as well, smart guy (NT) +0/-1
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Author:Losers gonna lose
11/11/2023 12:07:55 AM
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Msg ID:
2798437 |
606 is no 85% (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Anonymous
11/10/2023 1:00:21 PM
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Msg ID:
2798447 |
Crap, you guys were right +2/-2
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Author:AMC holds most of the cards.
11/10/2023 1:46:07 PM
Reply to: 2798417
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The bankruptcy was most certainly timed to take advantage of the contract bargaining. They aren't stupid. It was a gamble though as a strike could easily have been the end of the company. Fortunately, a majority of us realized this. I would guess many of the no votes were people that just didn't like being put in that position. I haven't heard one person say what specifically they would change. More money? Forget it. Better benefits? They are already pretty good. One thing about helicopter pilots is that many will vote against their own interests just to prove a point. Pragmatism is not a quality seen in many helicopter pilots. |
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Msg ID:
2798457 |
Crap, you guys were right +1/-1
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Author:YOU WANTED the quick
11/10/2023 3:19:18 PM
Reply to: 2798447
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cash up front and now...that is what persuaded most....though guess what your locked into any more raises stuck at the 3% (after the union takes their 1%)....union or not, you still paying the UNION out of your check every single paycheck...you honestly think the company will give you more than 3-4% for the next 7yrs????? HELLLLZ NO.....you lost all leverage....I wanted to put in there that Veterans get extra OT day on Veterans day...Union response was nothing... |
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Msg ID:
2798460 |
Crap, you guys were right +0/-1
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Author:yeah quick cash
11/10/2023 3:28:01 PM
Reply to: 2798457
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pilots were promised it 15 months for it bro |
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Msg ID:
2798476 |
Crap, you guys were right +1/-1
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Author:IF the CH 11 judge
11/10/2023 7:41:08 PM
Reply to: 2798460
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Approves it. You guys are screwed. For 7yrs!!!! Start the suffering now |
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Msg ID:
2798496 |
Crap, you guys were right +1/-0
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Author:Dear poor soul
11/10/2023 10:29:39 PM
Reply to: 2798417
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AMC owned the pilots and 109 took the rest. AMC will lose people in the end but.... I've seen back door deals between companies not to hire from the competition. 7 years with 3% a year and AMC will be behind again. |
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Msg ID:
2798500 |
Crap, you guys were right +0/-2
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Author:pretty sure
11/11/2023 6:12:32 AM
Reply to: 2798496
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it's four percent. you can't even get that right but I'm sure you know what you're talking about |
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Msg ID:
2798509 |
Crap, you guys were right +0/-1
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Author:Union rate
11/11/2023 8:01:33 AM
Reply to: 2798500
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Doesn't the union fee of 1% leave a gain of 3%? |
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Msg ID:
2798520 |
Crap, you guys were right +1/-1
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Author:no
11/11/2023 8:25:55 AM
Reply to: 2798509
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last f**king time for the retards:
100k before 4% raise= $83 a month for dues
104k after 4% raise = $86 a month for dues
$3 a month or $36 more a year after raise
goddamn some of you mother f**kers are stupid
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Msg ID:
2798625 |
Crap, you guys were right +0/-1
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Author:Lol math is hard
11/12/2023 8:01:45 AM
Reply to: 2798520
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You cant teach Stupid . But thanks for trying . I guess they still don't get it and they think they could have negotiated a better deal . |
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Msg ID:
2799802 |
Crap, you guys were right +0/-0
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Author:However
11/26/2023 4:29:07 PM
Reply to: 2798417
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ya choose to describe a union just think what it'd be without 109, and guaranteed it wouldn't be better. Operators do nothing for employees unless they have to. |
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Msg ID:
2799970 |
Crap, you guys were right +0/-0
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Author:wassup
11/28/2023 2:18:35 PM
Reply to: 2798417
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SOLVE IT WITH A HUGE STRIKE AND SHOW THEM WHO HAS THE POWER |
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