| Msg ID: 2797431 |
New 109 TA isn't much more than what you were getting w/o union TA +1/-2
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| Author:Compay was already providing it
10/30/2023 6:46:04 PM |
Retention bonus Workover incentive Pay raises (just because) No over 14 in GOM No forced work outside assigned base
You aren't getting anything out of this new TA you don't already have!
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| Msg ID: 2797433 |
New 109 TA isn't much more than what you were getting w/o union TA +0/-1
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| Author:For those of us not in the know
10/30/2023 6:58:21 PM Reply to: 2797431 |
What's the full scoop? |
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| Msg ID: 2797434 |
4% annual raises. $25,000 in bonus this year. Lots of extra OT $ (NT) +0/-2
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| Author:Same whiners and crybabies
10/30/2023 7:32:58 PM Reply to: 2797433 |
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| Msg ID: 2797436 |
gee. AMC was offering those WITHOUT the union! +0/-1
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| Author:now, union gets a cut on it they didn't
10/30/2023 7:40:23 PM Reply to: 2797434 |
...have before. naturally, they will tell you to vote yes so they can enjoy using that extra cash. Union board didn't make 1/5 of what these guys today want pocket. I remember board a few members making a motion to not make any money. now, those guys had real integrity. |
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| Msg ID: 2797437 |
gee. AMC was offering those WITHOUT the union! +0/-0
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| Author:the union has been here
10/30/2023 7:49:46 PM Reply to: 2797436 |
for 20 years bro |
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| Msg ID: 2797449 |
1 was a doctor. The business rep made over $150k and did squat for us (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:You remember wrong
10/30/2023 9:38:22 PM Reply to: 2797436 |
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| Msg ID: 2797469 |
4% annual raises. $25,000 in bonus this year. Lots of extra OT $ +0/-0
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| Author:OT????
10/30/2023 11:50:31 PM Reply to: 2797434 |
so you have to work harder to make OT to make more money? Isn't the point of making more money and not having to work OT more beneficial? So you don't value your time off |
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| Msg ID: 2797435 |
Contract Summary. Better than we have at GMR and it’s guaranteed +1/-0
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| Author:Any FL openings?
10/30/2023 7:34:47 PM Reply to: 2797431 |
Below is a summary of some of the key items for your review and consideration:
4% Annual Base Pay Raises
7 year term starting August 5, 2022through 2029. Since we are over a year into this contract already, there will be approximately only 5.5 years remaining on this contract before we start negotiating again.
Pay Scale placed into the contract. Pilots will be placed in the scale based on their current rate of pay plus a placement raise depending on your assigned "step." No one will lose money!
Overtime Pa
Minimum Recurrent Training Pay increased from 8 hours to 10 hours, at 1.5x.
Minimum 2 hours for non-flight related training or assignments, at 1.5x.
Workover Incentive of a "Minimum" of $250 per shift for the duration of the contract.
Workover removal (2 week) protection
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Language to support that recurrent training is not required only on your off-weeks.
ACCRA protection for base relocations within 50NM. If your base is relocated you continue to receive ACCRA from the previous location.
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One-time
No changes to Vacation accruals and the cap remains, however, the 75% base staffing rule now includes Pool Pilots for the purposes of approving vacation at your base.
Protection a
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Day-Basing protections.
Increases to Relocation Entitlements (Daily Rate).
Increases to Supplemental Pay: Senior Lead Pilot Pay (2 or more bases- $5000 + $500 per base), Lead Pilot Pay ($5000), IFR ($3,000), and ATP ($750). |
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| Msg ID: 2797460 |
Contract Summary. Better than we have at GMR and it’s guaranteed +0/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
10/30/2023 10:20:47 PM Reply to: 2797435 |
Once again, what are you giving up to get the below?
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| Msg ID: 2797470 |
Contract Summary. Better than we have at GMR and it’s guaranteed +0/-0
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| Author:Dude. That SUX. LOL
10/30/2023 11:55:42 PM Reply to: 2797435 |
You realize that most companies already offer that without even a union. You know they're gonna legally try to move around all of that for their benefit not even an increase and per diem And you only get $5000 upfront of that new contract and then the other 5000 within one year? Everything you're spelled out is usually paid with other companies without a union. Especially working over 12 hrs. |
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| Msg ID: 2797471 |
Contract Summary. Better than we have at GMR and it’s guaranteed +1/-0
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| Author:Plus. The $15k was already
10/30/2023 11:58:22 PM Reply to: 2797470 |
Promised come November 1 anyways. So that's nothing new so really we're only getting 5000 upfront from the new contract and 5000 after one year? I don't see anything that strikes me as being great in that new proposal. I would vote NO |
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| Msg ID: 2797480 |
New 109 TA isn't much more than what you were getting w/o union TA +3/-1
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| Author:Disappointed
10/31/2023 1:47:54 AM Reply to: 2797431 |
I kept an open mind until reading it. Pilots are possibly losing ground. If the contract is rejected is the $15,000 the company promised still paid out? $10,000 that was hyped is another retention bonus with penalties for quitting early. In the worst labor shortage of our career, when underpaid per industry, we settled for inflation only wage increases. The union negotiating team got owned. |
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| Msg ID: 2797518 |
Emotional drama much. 4% annual stays above of inflation for 2029 (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:Look it up smart guy
10/31/2023 10:23:32 AM Reply to: 2797480 |
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