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Msg ID: 2796414 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +2/-0     
Author:BigT
10/19/2023 3:12:18 PM

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/air-methods-plans-bankruptcy-filing-on-debt-load-profit-hit 



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Msg ID: 2796415 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-0     
Author:Good
10/19/2023 3:22:17 PM

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Msg ID: 2796416 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-1     
Author:So what?
10/19/2023 3:30:57 PM

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We've know this is coming for the past year. Do the same thing Phi did. GMR will do there chapter 11 q4 2024



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Msg ID: 2796419 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-1     
Author:Exactly
10/19/2023 4:11:14 PM

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PHI did it, AMC doing it, GMR will do it. Nothing will change, the private equity folks will still make out like kings while we do all the work. New owners for everyone, hopefully AMC and GMR learned from PHI that they shouldn't try to cheap out on the folks creating revenue. 



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Msg ID: 2796472 geeze b careful pal +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/20/2023 9:17:20 AM

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sounds to me like ur ragging on the capitalists. i can't do that on here, all the walking brain dead will pile on and start calling you all kinds of dirty commie names. 



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Msg ID: 2796417 As long as we get a good contract before hand it’s a win for us (NT) +1/-3     
Author:Trim the fat and drain the swamp
10/19/2023 3:43:00 PM

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Msg ID: 2796418 As long as we get a good contract before hand it’s a win for us  +1/-2     
Author:You
10/19/2023 3:50:51 PM

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Won't..



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Msg ID: 2796422 As long as we get a good contract before hand it’s a win for us  +3/-1     
Author:Wrong
10/19/2023 4:40:53 PM

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They will. They have been aggressive hiring for over 1.5 years with big sign on bonuses and raises. What did that equal, still record high pilot openings. Money is the only thing at the end of the day that talks. Pilots and med crews are the ONLY thing that generate revenue. Everyone else is just a cost. The contract is coming. You're a complete idiot to think otherwise. But, then again, there are a lot of stupid helo pilots 🤔



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Msg ID: 2796427 As long as we get a good contract before hand it’s a win for us  +0/-2     
Author:Contract
10/19/2023 5:17:38 PM

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Isn't coming



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Msg ID: 2796438 PHI will be filing AGAIN soon or sold  +3/-1     
Author:Off
10/19/2023 6:35:32 PM

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Their numbers are pretty bad right now. And I highly doubt with us filing at the end of October that you're gonna be getting a new contract with Air Methods for the pilots.



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Msg ID: 2796439 As long as we get a good contract before hand it’s a win for us  +1/-2     
Author:Pay cut around the corner
10/19/2023 6:45:14 PM

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More than likely you will be asked to take a 10% paycut to help the company through this difficult time.



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Msg ID: 2796444 Nah, you won't +2/-0     
Author:Pipe Dream
10/19/2023 7:38:10 PM

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Already struggling to get/keep people, the answer isn't cutting pay.



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Msg ID: 2796563 As long as we get a good contract before hand it’s a win for us  +0/-1     
Author:igotout
10/21/2023 12:08:28 AM

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You're way worse, you're an ignorant idiot SMH.

Air Methods, like all the Air Transport companies deserve to die. The whole thing is fn corrupt. IFT's that should never be flown in the 1st place. It's fn despicable. I can't help but laugh at you. Especially the ones sitting around waiting for a new CBA and double especially for the ones who think they're going to get a retention bonus. How fn stupid and dumb can you be?! You're getting nothing. But sit around, you've been a slave for so long already you know no better.



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Msg ID: 2796732 Seems rather underhanded, wouldn't you say? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:kind of like insider trading!
10/23/2023 7:48:52 AM

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Msg ID: 2796441 Restructuring = Base closures = Seniority is Important =  +0/-1     
Author:however you can steal, um, earn it
10/19/2023 6:47:23 PM

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Be glad you didn't go work for another company for a few years before you came back, or else you might not make the cut



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Msg ID: 2796442 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +3/-2     
Author:what's on my mind
10/19/2023 6:49:37 PM

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Bye Bye Nov Retention Bonus, Bye Bye...Foot in Mouth



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Msg ID: 2796443 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +2/-0     
Author:You’ll learn from PHI
10/19/2023 7:35:21 PM

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They have been thru it and they lost a lot of employees.  The president of the company which got fired kept saying that all these companies giving big bonuses and pay raises would be the first ones to go and fail and that they weren't going to chase the market.   well look at them now. Offering $50,000 sign on bonuses to $15,000 sign on bonuses for clinicians and pilots. Guess who's chasing the  market now 



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Msg ID: 2796492 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +0/-0     
Author:P Hi
10/20/2023 11:28:00 AM

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And we're still going down the crapper. "Run Forrest run" is the tag line around here now.



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Msg ID: 2796445 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +0/-0     
Author:LoL
10/19/2023 8:00:31 PM

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suckers 



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Msg ID: 2796450 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +9/-0     
Author:berniemadoff
10/19/2023 9:05:20 PM

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What inept managers did to a once fine company


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Msg ID: 2796467 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-2     
Author:It
10/20/2023 7:33:46 AM

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Was never a "Fine Co."  Air Meatheads Corruption SUX!! & No I wasn't fired or turned down a position either! I know I 'll hear lame  @$$es say I was. But did < 6 mos. for that over management Co. So glad I went to Corp flt dept. So flame away 😁



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Msg ID: 2796474 Couldn't hack helicopter flying, eh? (NT) +2/-2     
Author:Anonymous
10/20/2023 10:02:27 AM

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Msg ID: 2796483 Couldn't hack helicopter flying, eh? +1/-1     
Author:Nope
10/20/2023 10:35:23 AM

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Dual rated RW/FW & not prop pwrd either.



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Msg ID: 2796491 You didn't do your homework first! (NT) +1/-0     
Author:Helicopter operations are different!
10/20/2023 11:27:19 AM

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Msg ID: 2796477 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +3/-0     
Author:Rocky Feller
10/20/2023 10:12:02 AM

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Will management ever learn to listen to their pilots and mechanics on how to run a company?



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Msg ID: 2796485 They can run it like a union, and have money come automatically (NT) +1/-1     
Author:then spend it having fun doing nothing
10/20/2023 11:07:50 AM

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Msg ID: 2796484 "POSSIBLY!" POSSIBLY not! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/20/2023 11:06:03 AM

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Msg ID: 2796537 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-0     
Author:They, management,
10/20/2023 5:49:58 PM

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tried the big boy game with a public company, got very rich through options exercise, then bailed to private buyout.  Lots of companies do the prop up the stock price by buying other companies and project addition to share value, efficiencies, etc only to really be buying troubles and complications - time, smoke, and mirrors.  Fact is very few big boys do this often, unlike this company.



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Msg ID: 2797132 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +0/-0     
Author:Aaaaannndddd……..
10/27/2023 1:18:11 PM

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now more "big boy" stuff.  About to dissolve @ 1.7 billioin $ of debt.  Tell me the rich don't know how to manipulate business so they and the lawyers and all that crowd never fail to get rich, and keep on doing it.

Don't think the bottom sides aren't covered, by pre-design.  Kinda smart, now the poor need to get in on the act.  Fair is fair.



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Msg ID: 2796538 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +0/-0     
Author:Greed
10/20/2023 5:52:18 PM

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and scheming...



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Msg ID: 2796596 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +0/-0     
Author:Wallstreetgamer
10/21/2023 1:44:05 PM

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AMSEC bought AMC, refinanced debts and assets reinvested the cash. AMC holds the debts, AMSEC has made its ROI. AMC is now holding the liabilities while AMSEC is clear. AMC provides cash flow to AMSEC. AMC can be sold, broken up, go Ch11, etc...

it's what Adam Smithtried to tell us...Andrew Jacskin also, to a certain extent.

The US and all other countries are for sale and financiers use the system to increase their capital. Unfortunately, the capital goes into other investments and never back into the economy...and here we are.



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Msg ID: 2796604 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-0     
Author:Actually
10/21/2023 4:08:00 PM

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a significant post.  The rich get richer (by legally taking from the poor and middle class through taxes and interest paymeny requirements) and they're both worse off.  

To the helicopter industry the impact is what?  And who cares?

Don't think it's true?  Homework!



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Msg ID: 2796610 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +0/-0     
Author:Retired
10/21/2023 6:53:31 PM

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 Don't make the mistake most of helicopter pilots before you have done. Get out NOW! In 5 years or less you can be a professional pilot working in the air industry earning double or triple and real benefits. Staying in helicopters is a reflection of your intelligence.



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Msg ID: 2796690 Air Methods Filing For Bankruptcy +1/-2     
Author:Don’t care
10/23/2023 12:34:10 AM

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about IQ.

It's all a bit of a geopolitical crapshoot right now considering what 46 has managed to eff up, another way of saying the airline industry and helicopter ops may take a wartime hit (of what nature Unknown) similar to that COVID mess.

If you can afford the potential personal downside of switching to the airlines do it, otherwise play your cards closely.  My thought is this country is on the cusp of a military draft (again) and massive military buildup with awkward consequences.

Sure would like to see some leadership in this country.  Sure can't afford the current lot of buffoons!



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