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Msg ID: 2795857 Pilotless possibility... doubtful +0/-1     
Author:Airplane Andrew
10/9/2023 10:34:48 PM

Nothing new under the sun.  Drones been flying since before WW2.  Still no passenger drones.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231009-the-robot-aircraft-with-a-nightmarish-nuclear-mission

But, no crews could save airlines 35 billion/year:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2023/02/26/pilotless-autonomous-self-flying-planes/?sh=1ececc8745ea

Eventually, enough human mistakes or a huge financial shift could force the airlines to go to one pilot, then no pilot.



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Msg ID: 2795865 Pilotless possibility... doubtful +1/-2     
Author:yes
10/10/2023 4:51:10 AM

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the huge financial shift will empty the cockpit. whatever that means. gotta love the deep thinkers on here



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Msg ID: 2795883 Pilotless possibility... doubtful +1/-3     
Author:Deep Thoughts
10/10/2023 2:03:06 PM

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If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked
dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's
Hambone.


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Msg ID: 2795918 Pilotless possibility... doubtful +1/-1     
Author:Whitey Nuckels
10/11/2023 10:38:47 AM

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Airliners have gone from four engines and five crew in the 1930s to two engines and two crew today.When airlines get to one engine and no pilot, im done.



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Msg ID: 2795923 R2D2 +1/-4     
Author:Anonymous
10/11/2023 12:12:28 PM

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Worked in star wars. We're not that far off. DARPA Airbus is already working to certify automation in the cockpit to allow single pilot ops. A350 Like one of the replies to this thread: People would have screamed "impossible!" about twin engine oceanic flights... no way it would ever be possible and yet only a minority of planes flying transatlantic/Pacific flights are 4 engine aircraft (very few 3 engine birds in service anymore). That's within a span of less than 20 years too. Automation is certainly improving. Only a matter of time now.


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Msg ID: 2795924 R2D2 +1/-2     
Author:No
10/11/2023 12:22:25 PM

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there will never be less than two pilots on a passenger airliner. that's as far as you can go with redundancy. nobody ever has been either amazed or surprised by two engine aircraft over water



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Msg ID: 2795925 R2D2 +1/-1     
Author:automation is not, nor can it ever be
10/11/2023 12:29:23 PM

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a replacement for redundantcy. that is what everyone that says there will be single pilot airline ops never can figure out


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Msg ID: 2795926 R2D2 +0/-2     
Author:but it worked in star wars
10/11/2023 12:41:24 PM

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seriously lol


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Msg ID: 2795932 R2D2 +1/-1     
Author:Otto
10/11/2023 5:48:24 PM

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There was much controversy within the FAA and the airlines when Douglas and Lockheed desigend the thee engine DC10 and 1011 for over water. Same when the airlines started with twin engine jets. Single human pilot with advanced electroni pilot coming soon. 



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Msg ID: 2795935 R2D2 +0/-1     
Author:not coming soon
10/11/2023 6:12:39 PM

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probably not ever. who gives a crap how many engines. 



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Msg ID: 2795955 R2D2 +0/-1     
Author:Otto
10/12/2023 10:00:16 AM

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If you lose an engine you'll probably give a crap.



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Msg ID: 2795956 R2D2 +0/-1     
Author:not if
10/12/2023 10:08:33 AM

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I have two



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Msg ID: 2795927 Naysayers +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
10/11/2023 1:10:13 PM

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Are such interesting people.


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Msg ID: 2795928 Naysayers +0/-1     
Author:lol
10/11/2023 1:32:37 PM

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yeah, that's it



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Msg ID: 2795938 Naysayers +1/-1     
Author:HAA
10/11/2023 8:37:53 PM

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Who would have though we would have single pilot single engine in HAA?



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Msg ID: 2795939 Naysayers +0/-1     
Author:oldNtired
10/11/2023 8:39:24 PM

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Overwater, point of no return is determined by pressurization or loss thereof. then  fuel becomes the limiting factor, not number of engines 



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Msg ID: 2795976 Naysayers +0/-1     
Author:Otto
10/12/2023 10:31:41 PM

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Three engines were hotly debated as they were being designed. You can look it up! 



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Msg ID: 2795950 Pilotless possibility... doubtful +0/-1     
Author:Wiz me in
10/12/2023 2:06:16 AM

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 Airlines can't pull off a self flush toilet. Catch me outside



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