Msg ID:
2795522 |
LOSA @ PHI +5/-3
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Author:James Comey
10/5/2023 10:54:54 AM
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LOSA (Line Operations Safety Audit) at PHI, what a joke. Sounds like govt. FISA abuse to me.
Spying on the pilots all under the guise of safety. This wil only be for 30 days, YEAH RIGHT!!
"All video and audio files will be deleted upon completion of the review" -uh huh ok
"There will be no attempt to identify the crew or base in the recordings. In the event a pilot, crew member, or base is inadvertently recognized by the auditor, the information will not be noted or logged." -uh huh ok got it
"Principle of Immunity: Just as there will be no attempt to identify crew members in the recordings there will be no effort to contact, correct, or apply discipline for observed instances of mistakes or non-compliance." -ok perfect sounds good
THIS IS A BAD IDEA. |
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Msg ID:
2795525 |
LOSA @ PHI +10/-2
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Author:Topjimmy
10/5/2023 11:07:50 AM
Reply to: 2795522
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Follow your Ops Manual, don't do anything wrong, and fly it the way they pay you to fly it. No issues. |
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Msg ID:
2795528 |
LOSA @ PHI +0/-1
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Author:Topjimmy HAS to be in mgt
10/5/2023 11:18:10 AM
Reply to: 2795525
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Rah rah yeah hooray!!! Topjimmy you are totally missing the point!!!! They should not be monitoring flights that are not flagged. Period end of story. |
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Msg ID:
2795529 |
LOSA @ PHI +0/-0
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Author:Topjimmy
10/5/2023 11:20:38 AM
Reply to: 2795528
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Nope, not management. Line pilot. What exactly is it that you want to do in THEIR aircraft that you're afraid they'll call you out on? |
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Msg ID:
2795531 |
What if there’s a private conversation enroute. +1/-3
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Author:Snorky
10/5/2023 11:50:23 AM
Reply to: 2795529
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Let's suppose you are considering transitioning and are looking for encouragement and positive reinforcement from your co-pilot. This would be a very personal and private conversation. Management doesn't need to know this until you are ready to tell them. |
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Msg ID:
2795536 |
What if there’s a private conversation enroute. +0/-0
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Author:yeah
10/5/2023 12:33:45 PM
Reply to: 2795531
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God forbid that ever got around. |
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Msg ID:
2795532 |
LOSA @ PHI +1/-1
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Author:Attention topjimmy
10/5/2023 11:52:17 AM
Reply to: 2795528
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You realize PHI has the LAMPS system in the A/C for a reason correct?
Its for monitoring A/C performance and flight profiles....some of which will get flagged and you can expect a call when certain parameters are met or exceeded. Perfectly reasonible.
But to monitor any flight just because you feel the need to spy on your staff seems like an over-reach and you may put undo stress on an already anxious pilot afraid of exceeding a rate of descent or bank angle. It's just not a good idea. Have some faith in those doing the right things and have discussions with those having LAMPS exceedances. |
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Msg ID:
2795570 |
LOSA @ PHI +0/-0
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Author:say wut
10/5/2023 2:35:16 PM
Reply to: 2795532
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it makes me so nervous and anxious lol. lamps has nothing to do with performance bozo |
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Msg ID:
2795587 |
LOSA @ PHI +0/-0
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Author:Say Huh
10/5/2023 3:56:32 PM
Reply to: 2795570
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It doesnt have anything to do with performance? Really? You are the bozo.
What the majority of the people know on this forum could fit on the tip of a pin. Yes a pin like a needle not an ink pen. |
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Msg ID:
2795676 |
LOSA @ PHI +1/-0
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Author:Softball moms
10/6/2023 9:41:06 PM
Reply to: 2795532
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I think it also gets involved in CRM during critical phases of flight. Not necessarily to ding the pilot but also to monitor and call out the nurse that's texting her bf (not scanning and doing her part )about the pos ex that is spending money on his hot gf he dumped you for instead of cleats for junior. For the record junior hates softball and quit using that an excuse to tell everyone you're a FN at the ball field. Your 98k mile BMW that you owe out the azz for is gonna get expensive when your extended warranty expires. Maybe a versa or altima suits you better!!
signed your pilot that listens |
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Msg ID:
2795530 |
LOSA @ PHI +1/-1
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Author:666
10/5/2023 11:39:59 AM
Reply to: 2795522
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Heard from an instructor, it is all B.S.
Just a way to scare pilots into cleaning up their act, nothing more, relax it is NOT real! |
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Msg ID:
2795612 |
What's at the bottom of the announcement? +1/-1
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Author:Go look
10/5/2023 7:50:50 PM
Reply to: 2795522
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"In the event a crew member chooses not to participate in the LOSA Program, they should contact the LAMP Manager"
If you're worried about it, opt out. Or did you forget to actually read the whole email? |
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Msg ID:
2795734 |
What's at the bottom of the announcement? +0/-0
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Author:oldNtired
10/7/2023 4:29:35 PM
Reply to: 2795612
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Its a paradox for me. I miss the flying and Friends but I'm glad I'm out of the industry. Its become nothing but more Millennial Madness combined by the social (ist) elements. |
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Msg ID:
2795739 |
Cool, but no one asked. +0/-3
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Author:Very Off Topic
10/7/2023 7:14:46 PM
Reply to: 2795734
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I enjoy the friends and flying, but I do have to work with a bunch of old pilots who don't understand foreflight and how to operate an ipad. (Not that anyone asked) |
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Msg ID:
2795789 |
Cool, but no one asked. +1/-0
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Author:New IP Guy
10/8/2023 6:08:52 PM
Reply to: 2795739
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You must be the guru of all gurus operating foreflight on your ipad. All hail to the guru! That and a dollar might get you a cup of coffee. |
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Msg ID:
2796061 |
LOSA @ PHI +0/-0
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Author:1984
10/14/2023 10:43:12 AM
Reply to: 2795522
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sure is here. |
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