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Msg ID: 2793593 Kinda funny huh? +15/-5     
Author:Blows my mind how many
9/15/2023 3:59:41 PM

People in here despise AMC union without realizing, if and when they get raises that will put them above GMR, what do you think GMR will do shortly after that. You guys ever heard of a rising tide raises all ships? Why are some of you so dumb. I for one am cheering on the union. Hope you AMC guys get huge raises so GMR will follow as well with bigger ones! 

We all end up winning you retards



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Msg ID: 2793599 Kinda funnier? Realizing the only reason you aren't above GMR is (NT) +1/-4     
Author:because you HAVE a union!
9/15/2023 4:11:12 PM

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Msg ID: 2793602 Kinda funnier? Realizing the only reason you aren't above GMR is  +7/-2     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 4:12:47 PM

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There's retard number 1 🤣



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Msg ID: 2793606 What's the union willing to trade for that cash? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/15/2023 4:23:31 PM

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Msg ID: 2793608 What's the union willing to trade for that cash? +3/-4     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 4:25:32 PM

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You are literally proving my point. If the union wins, so does GMR pilots. Why does that offend you so much? it's because you're a retard.



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Msg ID: 2793661 What's the union willing to trade for that cash? +1/-2     
Author:unions
9/15/2023 6:27:46 PM

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Suck!! They weere needed in the 1920's Now all they do is drive up the consomers cost & Make Unoin Reps $$$$ & Protect Lame @ $ $ workers Been there & seen it 1st hand!!!! Down fall of American Industry 1st hand!!! 



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Msg ID: 2793795 What's the union willing to trade for that cash? +1/-0     
Author:You Are So Wrong
9/16/2023 6:58:18 PM

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I started in EMS in 1995 with AMC.  It was a single pilot IFR company.  You had to have a 4 year degree, you couldn't smoke, you needed to have a minimum of 3000 hours, and you had to pass an iFR check ride every 6 months.  

We had no sick leave.  No overtime until you worked 21 days, then it was just straight time.  Vacation could be taken if you could get your own coverage.  If you were liked, you could never get fired.  If the ops manager had a hard on for you he would come in and fire you overnight.  Pay sucked because most pilots were retired military.  I'm not sure I really got a raise, it didn't matter, it wasn't much.

It pretty much stayed like that until the union came along.  I wasn't a fan and didn't vote for it.  But it really changed the industry.  Now everybody in the business had to match what the AMC contract said.  They never really did that much better then the contract, and still don't for the most part.  They meet it and rarely do better, until time had passed and they catch up.  Love it or hate it, everything you have now, whether you're with AMC or not, is because of the union.  

It's not 1929.



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Msg ID: 2793866 Why? All you needed was a Commercial Instrument! +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/17/2023 1:11:09 PM

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"I started in EMS in 1995 with AMC.  It was a single pilot IFR company.  You had to have a 4 year degree, you couldn't smoke, you needed to have a minimum of 3000 hours, and you had to pass an iFR check ride every 6 months. "

 

You needed that because that was the discriminator used when there were too many pilots (supply) for the need (demand).

Unions didn't change that fact.   When the supply of pilots became less and less, pay and benefits started going up and up.

Same was (is) true in the fixed-wing side.

When I joined the military, I needed 20/20 vision, high ASFAB scores, and a good work ethic; and the pay was pittiful then too.  

 



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Msg ID: 2793612 Kinda funnier? Realizing the only reason you aren't above GMR is  +3/-1     
Author:Really man?!
9/15/2023 4:37:25 PM

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If the 109 secures raises of 10%-20% that means gmr will match plus more. If the 109 secures nothing, than gmr gives the minimum raises they have to, to just stay ahead. this is a game of leap frog with companies. This is what any employee wants to companies to do!!!! Stop being stupid 



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Msg ID: 2793625 Yeah, ok, so thanks for stating that its because you have a union, you are  +1/-3     
Author:below GMR. If your theory of...
9/15/2023 5:11:13 PM

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... of leap frog had credibility, then you'd recognize that its because you are a UNION you are below non-union companies (who are not burdened with all the other contract restrictions).  

So, again, if you want MONEY MONEY MONEY, what you willing to give up for it?   Becasue it is all the other things in the contract that tie the hands of the company from upping the pay like their non-union companies can do.

 

Your union is what is keeping you behind the others, not in front of!



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Msg ID: 2793633 Yeah, ok, so thanks for stating that its because you have a union, you are  +1/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:27:51 PM

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Except they gave a 14% raise last year. And another 3.25% this year. So....next stupid comment?



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Msg ID: 2793636 Yup, they did! On their own, when they wanted to, and despite of a union! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:IOWs, what union?
9/15/2023 5:30:36 PM

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Msg ID: 2793646 Yup, they did! On their own, when they wanted to, and despite of a union! +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:38:42 PM

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And when times are bad for pilots. And GMR says sorry no raises this year. You gonna cry like the little b*tch you are how you don't get a rise and AMC pilots do? Seriously, you are stupid. You might need help



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Msg ID: 2793672 Kinda funnier? Realizing the only reason you aren't above GMR is  +0/-1     
Author:What the union toads
9/15/2023 8:01:45 PM

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won't admit is that the "leapfroggoing" happens without unions too.



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Msg ID: 2793684 Exactly! That's a B-I-N-G-O. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/15/2023 10:14:46 PM

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Msg ID: 2793628 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:Op is a female for sure
9/15/2023 5:17:30 PM

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Nobody bickers like that unless it has tits



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Msg ID: 2793634 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:29:45 PM

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Retard number 2 entered the chat.

Have you even seen tits before? Besides the ones you had to pay for?



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Msg ID: 2793643 Kinda funny huh? +1/-0     
Author:Sassy lady
9/15/2023 5:37:53 PM

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I like that. I'll show you where the snake goes 



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Msg ID: 2793647 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:Probably up your
9/15/2023 5:39:40 PM

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Azz where you like it f*g hahahahahahaha



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Msg ID: 2793662 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:You love the cac
9/15/2023 6:38:58 PM

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gey boy 



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Msg ID: 2793631 You guys ever heard of a rising tide raises all ships? +2/-3     
Author:Tides are affected by the Moon...
9/15/2023 5:25:19 PM

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... not the union!

 

Supply and demand drive the price (wages) and that has zero to do with the union!   The "tides" are actually rising despite the union!  The union is complaining that it tossed out an anchor much too bulky and it is that anchor that is dragging he ship down.   Any good sailor would cut the anchor loose and go on without it!

 

 



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Msg ID: 2793635 You guys ever heard of a rising tide raises all ships? +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:30:20 PM

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Retard one still giving us useless opinion 🤣



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Msg ID: 2793637 Yet, here you are still whining about the tides! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/15/2023 5:31:51 PM

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Msg ID: 2793639 Yet, here you are still whining about the tides! +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:33:03 PM

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And you're still showing the world how stupid you are 🤣🤣🤣



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Msg ID: 2793638 You guys ever heard of a rising tide raises all ships? +1/-0     
Author:You clearly don’t
9/15/2023 5:32:18 PM

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Know how to read. I guess you no idea what's going on at the airlines, and they are ALL union.



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Msg ID: 2793642 Yep, and not OPEIU! (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
9/15/2023 5:37:02 PM

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Msg ID: 2793640 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:34:41 PM

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Count us 2 retards so far. Anyone else....? I can't believe I work at the same company as some of you 🤦🏻‍♂️



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Msg ID: 2793644 You can quit anytime. But, be glad they rehired you (NT) +0/-0     
Author:when they did!
9/15/2023 5:38:37 PM

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Msg ID: 2793641 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:I do find it funny the people on here
9/15/2023 5:36:42 PM

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Crying hown unions suck are the same ones drooling over airlines pay. But not relazing ALL the major airlines are unions. 🤣🤣



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Msg ID: 2793648 Who's drooling over airline pay? If I wanted airline pay, I'd go to the (NT) +0/-1     
Author:airlines. This isn't the airlines!
9/15/2023 5:39:41 PM

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Msg ID: 2793650 Who's drooling over airline pay? If I wanted airline pay, I'd go to the +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:40:32 PM

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Airlines don't hire retardd. Sorry buddy 



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Msg ID: 2793652 So, you shouldn't be whining you don't make airline pay (NT) +0/-0     
Author:then! Be happy with what you got!
9/15/2023 5:42:29 PM

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Msg ID: 2793653 So, you shouldn't be whining you don't make airline pay +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:43:49 PM

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Hahahahahaha I'm not complaining I don't make airline pay stupid?!?!? How freaking DUMB are you?!?!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣



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Msg ID: 2793645 Kinda funny huh? +0/-2     
Author:>>
9/15/2023 5:38:42 PM

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Unions are nothing more than legalized extortion!



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Msg ID: 2793649 Cartels by definition! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/15/2023 5:40:15 PM

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Msg ID: 2793651 Cartels by definition! +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:41:29 PM

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Hey retard 1. Stop having conversations with yourself 



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Msg ID: 2793654 It's pretty obvious why the company doesn't bargain with you at the table (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Can't blame them either!
9/15/2023 5:47:30 PM

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Msg ID: 2793655 It's pretty obvious why the company doesn't bargain with you at the table +1/-0     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 5:50:31 PM

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I work for GMR stupid!!!!! Seriously, every time you open your mouth you show the world how stupid you are!! 🤣🤣🤣

Everytime our competitors gives raises, so does GMR. It's literally a win win. So if the 109 can secure a big raise, we are getting one too! 

Can you add stupid?! 1+1 is not 11 like you think 🤣



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Msg ID: 2793658 So, what you are saying is you don't need a union to get leading pay +0/-0     
Author:That your waisting your 1% for
9/15/2023 6:13:27 PM

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... someone else's benefit.   I get it now.



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Msg ID: 2793659 So, what you are saying is you don't need a union to get leading pay +1/-1     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 6:19:41 PM

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Retard 3? 

Why do you dummies get stuck on if they have a union or not? If their union gets them big raises, WE get big raises too! How hard is that for you dummies to figure out. So if they want a union, good on them. I don't give a crap! 

If AMC gives big raises without the union, we still get a big raise!!! Win Win stupid! Who cares if they have a union. Since they do, I'm gonna hope they can get something big out of it!



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Msg ID: 2793664 So, what you are saying is you don't need a union to get leading pay (NT) +2/-1     
Author:You’re such a broad
9/15/2023 6:56:28 PM

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Msg ID: 2793666 So, what you are saying is you don't need a union to get leading pay +0/-2     
Author:Better than a dumbazz
9/15/2023 6:58:09 PM

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Freaking clown 🤡 🤣



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Msg ID: 2793656 Kinda funny huh? +2/-0     
Author:The rest of GMR
9/15/2023 5:57:57 PM

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Has a representative of the rest of the GMR pilots, I can collectively say. Retards 1 and 2 are just that, retards. Please ignore them. They probably got hired to meet GMR diversity quota. 

While I don't agree with unions, your thought processes is 100% correct. Come on OPIEU! Get some big money raises! I want a new boat hahaha



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Msg ID: 2793657 Kinda funny huh? +1/-1     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 6:07:28 PM

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There are stupid people everywhere unfortunately. Internet gives them a voice when they really need to be silenced



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Msg ID: 2793668 Kinda funny huh? +0/-1     
Author:Bankruptcy coming
9/15/2023 7:02:57 PM

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Good Luck GMR on that pending bankruptcy on the horizon 



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Msg ID: 2793670 Kinda funny huh? +0/-1     
Author:OP
9/15/2023 7:24:42 PM

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It's only $4.3 billion dollars lol



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Msg ID: 2793680 Kinda funny huh? +1/-0     
Author:Retired
9/15/2023 9:22:08 PM

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Pilots want 40% just like the UAW.   I think Helicopter pilots could pull off a sucsessfull strike, where as, the UAW will be without a paycheck for a long time - before Auto makers will concede to a small increase that won't cover the lost pay from time off.



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Msg ID: 2793780 Kinda funny huh? +1/-1     
Author:ABC
9/16/2023 3:56:13 PM

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UPS union nearly strike and now they make waaaay more than EMS RW pilot. UAW strikes and shortly will be making more too. Meanwhile, EMS RW pilots fight with each other instead of together and we still make crap compared to what we should...


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Msg ID: 2793867 Are you saying you'd rather work assembling cars or driving for +0/-1     
Author:UPS?? I'm sure they'd hire you!
9/17/2023 1:14:06 PM

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Provided you get good references from your previous employer, that is.



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Msg ID: 2793789 Agree 100% +1/-1     
Author:We PHI guys are counting on you
9/16/2023 6:33:18 PM

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Fingers crossed after we lose more and more pilots to GMR and AMC maybe our corporate overlords will do something, anything, to actually keep pilots vs recruiting new ones.


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Msg ID: 2793812 108 not doing so well for you I see. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Same story.
9/16/2023 9:46:56 PM

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Msg ID: 2793826 108 Can't do anything with single digit %  +1/-1     
Author:Membership
9/16/2023 11:29:35 PM

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PHI can screw us however they want in self help, and they are.


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Msg ID: 2793905 Agree 100% +2/-2     
Author:OP
9/17/2023 7:31:46 PM

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This thread just shows you how stupid some people are unfortunatefly. This is only a good thing for the industry and they still have to cry like pathetic crybabies.  heli pilots are some of the most uneducated trailer trash people 



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Msg ID: 2794041 Kinda funny huh? +0/-4     
Author:Union's Stink
9/19/2023 10:01:24 AM

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AMC pilots will always be 1% behind everyone else since you have to pay the cime network. 



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Msg ID: 2794067 They take in over $1-million a year at the local (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Magic Money!
9/19/2023 1:14:38 PM

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Msg ID: 2794332 Kinda funny huh? +0/-0     
Author:Why not do
9/21/2023 1:31:25 PM

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a little investigation.  Go back to 1970 to the present day and look at helicopter operator pilot annual salaries.

Notice what happens when unions hit the field.

Yes, unions don't sound worthwhile and far from what should be but if you look at the salary growth, or almost total lack thereof, you'll notice union value, and management 'mismanagement' of pilot compensation.

This will definitely be worth you effort.



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