| Msg ID: 2792989 |
Mountain flying +1/-8
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| Author:Why do operators ask for it?
9/8/2023 9:25:35 PM |
How hard can it be? You just raise the collective and fly over the ground, which is pointy Instead of flat. |
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| Msg ID: 2792991 |
You answered your own question, (NT) +2/-0
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| Author:nuff said.
9/8/2023 9:36:33 PM Reply to: 2792989 |
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| Msg ID: 2792994 |
You answered your own question, +1/-2
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| Author:Right?!
9/8/2023 9:58:55 PM Reply to: 2792991 |
It's not rocket science. it's mountain flying. So easy |
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| Msg ID: 2792995 |
Absolutely, go for it. You'll do fine. (NT) +6/-0
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| Author:You got this.
9/8/2023 10:22:38 PM Reply to: 2792994 |
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| Msg ID: 2792998 |
Absolutely, go for it. You'll do fine. (NT) +3/-2
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| Author:Bro i have 1,000 hrs chill
9/8/2023 11:48:25 PM Reply to: 2792995 |
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| Msg ID: 2793029 |
based on your original question...you didn't learn (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:much in that 1000 hrs.
9/9/2023 12:14:13 PM Reply to: 2792998 |
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| Msg ID: 2793001 |
Mountain flying +2/-1
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| Author:Answers given
9/9/2023 1:34:36 AM Reply to: 2792989 |
Insurance companies is why. Years ago FAA types were big on blaming pilot error associated with density altitude crashes even if DA wasn't the complete cause and suddenly every insurance company wanted documentation that pilots were trained in high DA flying. |
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| Msg ID: 2793014 |
Mountain flying +3/-2
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| Author:New IP Guy
9/9/2023 8:21:33 AM Reply to: 2793001 |
Let the troll go do some mountain flying, with no experience so he can fafo. |
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| Msg ID: 2793023 |
Mountain flying +9/-1
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| Author:Mountain Man
9/9/2023 9:53:39 AM Reply to: 2792989 |
I took a piston to the mountains early in my career and had to slow to 60 kts at max power just to get over the ridge. If I tried to go any faster RPM was going to suffer. The learning curve was steep. There are situations in the mountains where you will not be able to out climb the down drafts, experienced pilot will know they signs and fly appropriately. I've seen bell helicopters get mast bumping from updrafts with low g and incorrect controls inputs. Luckily everyone got home. Thats only scratching the surface. Flying in the mountains can be challenging at high DA and limited power. It's not for rookies. |
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| Msg ID: 2793070 |
Mountain flying +3/-0
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| Author:Fat man
9/10/2023 8:21:17 AM Reply to: 2793023 |
I have witnessed backslope airmass decent rates of +3000 fpm ... you're not gonna climb out of that in anything. also I've been in a situation where the upslope wind was such that, even at flat pitch and zero airspeed we were still climbing...
flying in the mountains is different... and if you don't understand what's going on you can easily put yourself and crew in an unrecoverable situation. |
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| Msg ID: 2793032 |
Mountain flying +3/-3
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| Author:JUSTTROLLS.COM
9/9/2023 1:03:05 PM Reply to: 2792989 |
It used to be the occasional troll, perhaps more than occasional, just a part of JH web site. Now it seems 90% of posts are trolls, it becomes boring. What makes it more sad, there are too many in the industry today who actually think and say the same things the trolls do. |
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| Msg ID: 2793109 |
Mountain flying +1/-0
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| Author:Another
9/10/2023 5:31:34 PM Reply to: 2792989 |
Ijit. |
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| Msg ID: 2793271 |
Mountain flying +2/-0
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| Author:oldNtired
9/12/2023 6:18:07 PM Reply to: 2793109 |
Don't waste your time. If he is a troll he must at least read. If he's a newer generation pilot, he isn't going to heed any words of wisdom. To these people wisdom doesn't come from experience..wisdom comes from Google ! |
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| Msg ID: 2793281 |
Mountain flying +0/-0
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| Author:Old n not tired
9/12/2023 7:14:59 PM Reply to: 2793271 |
Good one. |
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| Msg ID: 2793309 |
Mountain flying +0/-0
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| Author:experience
9/13/2023 3:49:36 AM Reply to: 2792989 |
Hiring new pilots, mountain time (aka high DA) experience is worth much more than multi engine or ifr time. poor multi engine experience rarely results in anything too terrible. ifr time is black and white and easily learned. mountain time on the other hand is not black and white and a lack of experience will easily put you in a balled up heli. Our industry has it backwards when operators put twin engine and ifr time above mountain time! |
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| Msg ID: 2793319 |
Mountain flying +0/-0
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| Author:Beware, though
9/13/2023 9:01:24 AM Reply to: 2793309 |
Most of the youngsters got their "mountain time" in "Leadville". |
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| Msg ID: 2793451 |
Mountain flying +0/-0
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| Author:30 years
9/14/2023 4:04:31 PM Reply to: 2792989 |
I haven't flown below 6000 feet in 30 years, and I'm still scared. Absolutley hate turbulance. Downdrafts on the wrong side of the valley go from nothing to screaming down in a heart beat. Woudn't know what to do if the aircraft came to a hover with only half collective. I've only hit the pedal stops about 10 times, but always expecting it. BUT, I love it. |
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