| Msg ID: 2792058 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +4/-0
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| Author:Here you go
8/28/2023 7:13:00 PM |
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| Msg ID: 2792060 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +0/-0
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| Author:already posted
8/28/2023 7:21:59 PM Reply to: 2792058 |
probably will be more |
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| Msg ID: 2792066 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +2/-1
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| Author:Nodoginfite
8/28/2023 8:03:51 PM Reply to: 2792058 |
good commentary, however, I believe that helicopter had the old style cockpit, not the flat screen displays being shown on your explanation. I also don't know if that particular helicopter had a fire bottle installed. That model didn't always have them installed, and if they were installed would be only one. |
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| Msg ID: 2792748 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +1/-0
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| Author:Agreed...
9/4/2023 9:39:31 PM Reply to: 2792066 |
However, I believe that particular aircraft was certificated under Part 27. That being the case, it was not a transport category aircraft. I've personally seen in the past many operators remove the engine fire extinguishing system because it was an option. They didn't want to have the additional inspection and maintenance costs. Whether or not that particular P-1 had the operational bottles, I personnly would have no way of knowing. One thing can be visually determined from the video, the fire caused catestrophic failure of the tailboom attaching points. Sad. |
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| Msg ID: 2792091 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +1/-0
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| Author:Mustang 23
8/29/2023 6:56:35 AM Reply to: 2792058 |
There are other videos of this that show it more clearly, but it looks like the fire was in the compartment below the exhaust stacks. You EC135 guys will have to educate me on what's in that space, but it does have ventalation (you can see the fire through the screen) and it also is where the tail boom attaches. If that is where the fire was I doubt the fire bottles would do anything. |
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| Msg ID: 2792114 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +1/-0
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| Author:Blow chow
8/29/2023 10:14:54 AM Reply to: 2792091 |
The battery is mounted in that space and it could have been a NICAD with thermal runaway. The only other component that comes to mind could have been an AC compressor with the old flex drive that the company out of SHV had an STC for. What was the tail number /operator? |
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| Msg ID: 2792119 |
Two people dead. Hold Pilot responsible. Cops are held responsible when (NT) +1/-1
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| Author:they screw up. Hold pilot accountable.
8/29/2023 10:22:51 AM Reply to: 2792114 |
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| Msg ID: 2792155 |
Pretty good video on Florida crash +1/-0
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| Author:jd2
8/29/2023 3:13:19 PM Reply to: 2792114 |
Battery on rh side(#2), ac condenser on lh side(#1). firewall between each and respective engines. almost looks like oil fire, TM's run hot. |
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| Msg ID: 2792169 |
Possible - not wrong to talk through possible scenarios +1/-0
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| Author:AMC Guy
8/29/2023 5:41:08 PM Reply to: 2792058 |
Yeah, was pretty sure that's where the AC was. It is possible that if it was in that area or was from the avionics deck then no engine fire light would have lit. I've heard you can typically smell the smoke even if it's that far back, but that seems like a stretch. I've had electrical burn smell before just behind the passenger area in a 206B and could smell it. Anyone else have experience? If he knew it was a fire, he certainly missed some huge fields he could have landed immediately in. Very unfortunate. Don't discount bad company culture that could have pressured him to RTB instead of risk hitting wires or something during Land ASAP/Immediately. That has pushed many aviators to choose a really dumb course of action... I know some folks get lit up about armchair quarterbacking but critical thinking and discussion is FAR better than just saying "RIP" or "That sucks". Especially for the few younger aviators that get on here. Tons of lessons learned from any accident/incident and we should always share our thoughts, experiences, FARs, RFM procedures, etc. |
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| Msg ID: 2792195 |
Nose going left? +0/-0
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| Author:UUUUSSSS
8/29/2023 10:49:07 PM Reply to: 2792058 |
When the tail boom broke why is the nose going left. |
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| Msg ID: 2792221 |
Nose going left? +0/-0
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| Author:cheap
8/30/2023 9:47:23 AM Reply to: 2792195 |
I was thinking an oil fire too, maybe a loose “b” nut from the previous night‘s work. |
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| Msg ID: 2792229 |
Nose going left? +0/-0
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| Author:Pepe Lepew
8/30/2023 10:58:08 AM Reply to: 2792195 |
Cuz the blades are going right? |
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| Msg ID: 2792293 |
It isn't... (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Pay attention.
8/30/2023 9:11:52 PM Reply to: 2792195 |
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| Msg ID: 2792383 |
Selfie camera mode +0/-0
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| Author:Captain Obvious
8/31/2023 4:00:51 PM Reply to: 2792195 |
Selfie mode flips everything backwards... |
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