| Msg ID: 2790718 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +1/-1
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| Author:Aloha
8/14/2023 7:42:37 AM |
I've never been to Hawaii but I'm sure that there has to be a couple of Guard and Big Army copters in Hawaii that can drop water but the public has not heard a single word about any active aerial firefighting during the recent fires. |
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| Msg ID: 2790730 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +6/-2
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| Author:Anonymous
8/14/2023 10:23:52 AM Reply to: 2790718 |
There are but the reason they didn't fly this fire was the 60-70mph winds at the time. |
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| Msg ID: 2790732 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +1/-1
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| Author:An Army Guy
8/14/2023 10:25:47 AM Reply to: 2790718 |
The Guard could be deployed to a foreign land or deployed to a national training center in the US. Big Army units don't all have Bambi buckets and may also be deployed as well. |
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| Msg ID: 2790736 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +13/-4
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| Author:Let’s face it
8/14/2023 11:03:38 AM Reply to: 2790732 |
When the guard or army gets involved on a fire, all they do is make it worse and hold up everyone else trying to do their job. |
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| Msg ID: 2790743 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +6/-3
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| Author:Wcgw
8/14/2023 11:56:49 AM Reply to: 2790736 |
70 mph winds, night, minimally trained crews! Yeah what could go wrong? |
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| Msg ID: 2790747 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +2/-3
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| Author:Retired
8/14/2023 1:22:23 PM Reply to: 2790743 |
What could go wrong ? Over Water at Night, Task Limited Fire fighting experience, Smoke, exceded Airframe starting limits ? |
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| Msg ID: 2790925 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +0/-0
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| Author:Lil Timmy needs social skills
8/16/2023 10:47:15 AM Reply to: 2790747 |
Jesus.... if you couldn't read the sarcasm of that message, you may as well go clean crappers (the S word was not allowed here i guess) for the rest of your life..... |
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| Msg ID: 2790789 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +1/-7
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| Author:OLD CRUSTY
8/14/2023 8:11:47 PM Reply to: 2790743 |
Give me a ratted out 500 with a Bambi bucket and I would've had that thing out 2 mins after it started. Doesn't matter if its blowing 70. Childs play. |
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| Msg ID: 2790800 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +2/-1
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| Author:Oh really
8/15/2023 12:17:56 AM Reply to: 2790789 |
With all your 100 gallons of water big guy? |
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| Msg ID: 2790926 |
No firefighting helicopters in Hawaii? +0/-0
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| Author:I need a hero!
8/16/2023 10:50:56 AM Reply to: 2790789 |
considering the winds at the time-A-your drops would be worthless.... B-You would be lawndarted into the ground and then be upset because no one came to help.... |
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| Msg ID: 2790863 |
High winds an act of God. Hawaiians on welfare +0/-0
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| Author:some dude in maui
8/15/2023 5:03:29 PM Reply to: 2790802 |
Windward Aviation in Maui worked all 3 fires inlcuding Lahaina fire with 3 MD 500's & a BK 117 as soon as the 80 mph winds slowed down a bit. Hawaii NG also had 2 CH-47's. The fellow who thought he could have it out in a few minutes with a 100 gal Bambi bucket was mistaken. |
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| Msg ID: 2790866 |
High winds an act of God. Hawaiians on welfare +0/-0
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| Author:Aloha
8/15/2023 5:27:54 PM Reply to: 2790863 |
Thank you.
These are the things that nobody bothers to report on. |
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| Msg ID: 2790873 |
High winds an act of God. Hawaiians on welfare +0/-0
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| Author:Maybe
8/15/2023 6:38:48 PM Reply to: 2790866 |
Get some bigger aircraft flown by real fire pilots and it would have made a difference. |
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| Msg ID: 2791346 |
High winds an act of God. Hawaiians on welfare +0/-0
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| Author:1heliguy
8/22/2023 3:16:08 PM Reply to: 2790873 |
What are the wind limits for effective water drop operations on state fire Mob's? |
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