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Msg ID: 2790238 Disabilities? +2/-4     
Author:Mil-man
8/9/2023 11:41:30 AM

So it looks like a lot of us are getting our medicals pulled for lying about disabilities.  Is this going to hit the fixed side as hard as the rotor side?



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Msg ID: 2790244 Disabilities? +8/-1     
Author:its simple
8/9/2023 12:06:47 PM

Reply to: 2790238

if you have a disability and they ask...you answer yes....IF you don't check the box or when asked, then YES they will jam you up because, well your lying...LOL.....Depending on what your diability is, they will look into it...NOT everyone who has a VA rating is getting it pulled.....just specific elements or Disabilities 

 



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Msg ID: 2790245 Disabilities? +2/-2     
Author:Ex Mil
8/9/2023 12:08:11 PM

Reply to: 2790238

From what I have seen/heard it is the ones who are claiming 100% disability and not reporting it on the FAA examination paperwork that they are investigating. It is not a witch hunt and they are not going after someone with minor disabilities. I was told on my first cilvilian physical not to report minor military stuff and I never have. The FAA has always had access to VA Files and this is nothing new.



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Msg ID: 2790246 Disabilities? +7/-1     
Author:i get 40%
8/9/2023 12:14:28 PM

Reply to: 2790245

Rating from the VA for Knee surgeries I had while I was in...I have been reporting that for the past 15yrs on every exam....I check the box under VA Disability and put the amount of rating and what it is and year I had it.....Never a issue at all....



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Msg ID: 2790252 Disabilities? +1/-0     
Author:yep
8/9/2023 1:26:17 PM

Reply to: 2790246

They are going after 100% PTSD /100% Sleep Apnea /100% Total Disabilities etc/ Not the 10-50% guys with minor non disqualifiing issues. Don't self report a 10% Titinitus claim



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Msg ID: 2790257 Disabilities? +0/-0     
Author:or you could just disclose
8/9/2023 1:56:12 PM

Reply to: 2790252

are they gonna deny your medical for tinnitus?



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Msg ID: 2790270 Disabilities? +11/-2     
Author:mildude
8/9/2023 3:36:20 PM

Reply to: 2790257

The problem is with the abuse of the system.  Yes, You served your country, no you don't get to abuse a system to make more money.

If you have legit disabilities then fine, but most of what happens in the military and other state and federal governments is just plain fraud.

It's a way to defraud the tax payer out of money so you can live a better life at the expense of others.

So lets say you served 20 years and got out with 2500hrs, yah i know that is asking a lot.  When you leave you find the right doc to make up some of these disabilities to seem worse so you get more money.  The you lie on another federal form to defraud the government now to get a good high paying job, and now you are living off two income.  Man, I did good.

Expect the truth is you are a thief, no different than any other common criminal. 

Period.

 

 



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Msg ID: 2790283 BS, +5/-0     
Author:it's not that complicated...
8/9/2023 4:31:55 PM

Reply to: 2790270

when you leave service you claim whatever disabilities you have.  The VA investigates and award what they consider justified.  When you get your FAA physical you fill out the form truthfully.

It's just that simple.



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Msg ID: 2790296 BS, +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
8/9/2023 5:53:34 PM

Reply to: 2790283
During your exit medical (whether ETSing or retiring) they 1st- look at your record and decide if you warrant something THEY think is a disability based on if it occurred during your military service and 2nd- ask you if YOU think you have anything that should be looked into whether you received treatment for it or not. The second reason is what some may call BS as people then moan and ache and say they have this or that but then it's on the military to investigate (and they DO perform whatever evaluation to see if it's legit; x-rays, sleep study, refer to specialist etc.). They don't just hand out disability ratings like candy. It's not as corrupt a system as you think but are there vets who game the system to cheat/steal? Of course there are.


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Msg ID: 2790284 Disabilities? +4/-2     
Author:the government can suck my nuts
8/9/2023 4:33:06 PM

Reply to: 2790270

don't want to steal from the taxpayer huh? what about all those bombs dropped in the middle east that would pay for every veteran to get 100% pay. A single hellfire could pay for 3 veterans. a random goatlover in his mudhut was worth dropping $150k on but you can't pay the dude that did it $40k?



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Msg ID: 2790289 Disabilities? +4/-2     
Author:you can rationalize it all you want
8/9/2023 5:41:58 PM

Reply to: 2790284

but lying is still lying and stealing is still stealing



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Msg ID: 2790290 Disabilities? +3/-0     
Author:Well that makes sense
8/9/2023 5:42:41 PM

Reply to: 2790284

Well I guess with that logic, it's totally cool.

If someone else is doing something bad, I will too.

Thanks for explaining it so well.



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Msg ID: 2790308 Disabilities? +1/-0     
Author:To answer the OP’s Question…
8/9/2023 7:15:35 PM

Reply to: 2790238

Yes. It is happening on the fixed-wing side too. 



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Msg ID: 2790319 Disabilities? +2/-0     
Author:4F
8/9/2023 8:22:51 PM

Reply to: 2790308

It started on the fixed wing side.  There was an accident with a pilot that was receiving compensation for disability that was a grounding condition, didn't tell the AME and had a "valid" medical certificate.  Didn't take them much searching to find a bunch of others.

They really only care about grounding conditions, but want to assess what is grounding for themselves. 



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Msg ID: 2790351 Liars and cheats being called out +1/-1     
Author:It's about time
8/10/2023 9:05:43 AM

Reply to: 2790238

It's amazing how many pilots claim and now receive 100 percent from the VA. Then you have these so called advocates wanting to assist you for a piece of the action.

Enjoy being a ground pounder.

 



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