| Msg ID: 2789962 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +2/-4
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| Author:Tech II
8/7/2023 7:14:41 AM |
Tragic loss of Life, I hope that it being dusk wasnt a factor.
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| Msg ID: 2789963 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +1/-1
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| Author:Tech II
8/7/2023 7:32:48 AM Reply to: 2789962 |
State Officals identified the two aircraft involved in the mid-air collision as a Bell 407 helicopter and a Sikorsky S-64E helicopter. The 407 Crashed and the S-64 Landed safely according to the news report. |
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| Msg ID: 2789977 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:anyone know the operators?
8/7/2023 10:49:44 AM Reply to: 2789964 |
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| Msg ID: 2789985 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:the 407
8/7/2023 11:27:36 AM Reply to: 2789977 |
appears to belong to Air Shasta |
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| Msg ID: 2789986 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:random
8/7/2023 11:39:15 AM Reply to: 2789985 |
It's an all black 407HP right? |
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| Msg ID: 2789987 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:2 years ago
8/7/2023 11:45:13 AM Reply to: 2789986 |
eagle conversion |
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| Msg ID: 2790018 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:N4037S
8/7/2023 6:32:24 PM Reply to: 2789987 |
Siller owns the crane involved. |
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| Msg ID: 2790027 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +1/-0
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| Author:Crane
8/7/2023 8:20:26 PM Reply to: 2790018 |
Anyone know where the crane got hit? Photos are dark and grainy but snorkel looks stowed and intact and it appears to be sitting even on the wheels. Tough old girl to take the hit anywhere else |
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| Msg ID: 2790041 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +1/-2
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| Author:Black Bart
8/7/2023 9:37:21 PM Reply to: 2790027 |
I guess the gear and only because the rotor head of the 407 appears to be on the ground. I f8756 hate this s85t. |
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| Msg ID: 2790046 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:Confused
8/7/2023 10:59:39 PM Reply to: 2790041 |
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| Msg ID: 2790057 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:Looks
8/8/2023 1:12:06 AM Reply to: 2790041 |
Like the right gear leg is missing a wheel. |
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| Msg ID: 2790091 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:Curious
8/8/2023 12:33:12 PM Reply to: 2790057 |
Where are you seeing these pictures of the crane? |
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| Msg ID: 2790053 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-1
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| Author:cheap
8/8/2023 12:20:40 AM Reply to: 2789962 |
Maybe the 407 hit the snorkel tube from below, from another report. |
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| Msg ID: 2790068 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +4/-1
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| Author:major screwup
8/8/2023 7:14:23 AM Reply to: 2790053 |
Why was C&C under the Crane? They should have been above and circling in the opposite direction! They can only deviate from this with prior communication with the other helicopters to advise them of altitude and position. Someone really screwed uphere. |
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| Msg ID: 2790080 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock +3/-1
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| Author:Position of the 407
8/8/2023 8:44:38 AM Reply to: 2789962 |
The 64 took a different route to the fire, and was descending from above the 407 When they converged. |
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| Msg ID: 2790082 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock +3/-3
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| Author:Gordy
8/8/2023 9:10:32 AM Reply to: 2790080 |
I was exonerated as the wire hit me, not the other way around. |
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| Msg ID: 2790084 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock +2/-1
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| Author:Screw up
8/8/2023 10:38:58 AM Reply to: 2790080 |
Actually if you look at the path. The 407 was the one who took a different path. Did circles, and other stuff when the crane went direct. As helco, they should have been above. Not that low. |
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| Msg ID: 2790096 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock +8/-1
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| Author:I guess facts are not important.
8/8/2023 1:01:46 PM Reply to: 2790084 |
Let's armchair quarterback the whole thing and not have one piece of evidence. Why wait until all the facts come out. Im sure most of you are not even fire pilots.. |
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| Msg ID: 2790098 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock +1/-1
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| Author:I guess facts are not important.
8/8/2023 1:09:08 PM Reply to: 2790084 |
Let's armchair quarterback the whole thing and not have one piece of evidence. Why wait until all the facts come out. Im sure most of you are not even fire pilots.. |
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| Msg ID: 2790102 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock (NT) +1/-2
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| Author:It’s what we do!
8/8/2023 2:25:36 PM Reply to: 2790098 |
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| Msg ID: 2790141 |
The CH54 descended on top of the 407 from the 5 o’clock +1/-2
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| Author:cheap
8/8/2023 8:05:20 PM Reply to: 2790098 |
The facts won’t be out for 3 years and if is not armchair quarterbacked it could happen again tomorrow. |
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| Msg ID: 2790164 |
Not true, the facts will be out within weeks +3/-1
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| Author:if not sooner...
8/8/2023 11:00:04 PM Reply to: 2790141 |
the operators will be briefed on the findings. If necessary policies/procedures will be revised. People with a need to know will get the facts. The final report for the looky loos will be published after the report has made the rounds in the building. If you don't get the facts...it's not important for you to have them. |
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| Msg ID: 2791192 |
California Fire Fighting Helicopters Down +0/-0
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| Author:Tech II
8/19/2023 5:49:09 PM Reply to: 2789962 |
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