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Msg ID: 2788428 RFM max gross weight +3/-7     
Author:Rule or recommendation?
7/19/2023 6:25:34 PM

I sometimes go quite a bit over the max weight if I can drag the skids off the ground. Our old lead pilot a Vietnam guy taught us how to really make the most of our lift. 

is the MGTW really a rule or more of a recommendation? 



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Msg ID: 2788433 Optional RFM Limitations +2/-1     
Author:Me Fly Good
7/19/2023 6:58:50 PM

Reply to: 2788428

Pray the FAA or your Certificate Holder doesn't read this ignorant post.



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Msg ID: 2788435 Optional RFM Limitations +1/-0     
Author:Op
7/19/2023 7:26:28 PM

Reply to: 2788433

easy bro



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Msg ID: 2788488 Optional RFM Limitations +1/-0     
Author:XRMH
7/20/2023 3:47:33 PM

Reply to: 2788433

Don't bite the troll bait!



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Msg ID: 2788439 RFM max gross weight +0/-1     
Author:Dope
7/19/2023 8:32:54 PM

Reply to: 2788428

Not a recommendation..

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/91.9



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Msg ID: 2788440 RFM max gross weight +1/-1     
Author:You can always go
7/19/2023 8:33:22 PM

Reply to: 2788428

Tree Fiddy over easily!!!!!!!



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Msg ID: 2788445 RFM max gross weight +0/-0     
Author:Heli pilot
7/19/2023 10:58:33 PM

Reply to: 2788440

Weren't they called high D/A take offs?   I seem to remember having to demonstrate that maneuver in the early 80s.



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Msg ID: 2788446 RFM max gross weight +6/-1     
Author:Please stop!
7/20/2023 12:02:40 AM

Reply to: 2788445

Exceeding the max gross weight has cumulative effects! 
Maybe you get away with it but what about the next guy?

 



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Msg ID: 2788464 RFM max gross weight +6/-4     
Author:Shut up
7/20/2023 12:38:52 PM

Reply to: 2788446

Obviously you've never had a real job such as a logger or something....grow a pair.



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Msg ID: 2788474 RFM max gross weight +1/-3     
Author:what kind of moron
7/20/2023 1:36:07 PM

Reply to: 2788464

would want a logging job



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Msg ID: 2788489 RFM max gross weight +0/-0     
Author:It’s where
7/20/2023 4:04:48 PM

Reply to: 2788474

Real men learn to fly



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Msg ID: 2788516 RFM max gross weight +0/-0     
Author:you should probably not try
7/21/2023 5:31:05 AM

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to teach yourself logging


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Msg ID: 2788476 FAR 91.9...read it, know it, +3/-1     
Author:live it...
7/20/2023 2:11:26 PM

Reply to: 2788428

§ 91.9 Civil aircraft flight manual, marking, and placard requirements.

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, no person may operate a civil aircraft without complying with the operating limitations specified in the approved Airplane or Rotorcraft Flight Manual, markings, and placards, or as otherwise prescribed by the certificating authority of the country of registry.



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Msg ID: 2788479 FAR 91.9...read it, know it, +2/-1     
Author:hey look
7/20/2023 2:20:48 PM

Reply to: 2788476

there is somebody out there too stupid to know this is a troll lol



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Msg ID: 2788481 not necessarily, depends on who you (NT) +0/-0     
Author:work for.
7/20/2023 2:50:31 PM

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Msg ID: 2788495 not necessarily, depends on who you +2/-0     
Author:oldNtired
7/20/2023 7:45:21 PM

Reply to: 2788481

Recommendation: until you crash, then its a rule !



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Msg ID: 2788503 not necessarily, depends on who you +0/-0     
Author:Dope
7/20/2023 11:20:08 PM

Reply to: 2788495

I don't hurt the aircraft, because I'm smooth..



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Msg ID: 2788517 RFM max gross weight +0/-1     
Author:cheap
7/21/2023 6:27:28 AM

Reply to: 2788428

In for a penny, in for a pound. If you are going to operate your helicopter past the max operating temperature you might as well fudge on the GW too. Limits, we don’t need no stinking limits.



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Msg ID: 2788538 RFM max gross weight +0/-1     
Author:there are plenty of pilots
7/21/2023 11:50:18 AM

Reply to: 2788517

and managers who think that if no inspection is required for exceedance, then it really isn't a limitation. 

I try to distance myself from such people.  Given the opportunity, I try to remove them from the industry.



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Msg ID: 2788554 RFM max gross weight (NT) +1/-0     
Author:FAA star is born
7/21/2023 4:07:46 PM

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Msg ID: 2788559 RFM max gross weight +2/-0     
Author:I’m
7/21/2023 5:37:17 PM

Reply to: 2788428

an RVN vet helicopter pilot who did what you speak about many times, but, this isn't war unless you choose to wage it by chance on yourself through stretching your professional liability playing test pilot, which you probably are not.  

Play by the rules or find another job, other than spoofing on public forums.



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Msg ID: 2788762 RFM max gross weight +1/-0     
Author:New IP Guy
7/23/2023 10:31:27 PM

Reply to: 2788428

There are at least 2 gross weight limitations that apply to helicopters. Structural, and atmospheric. Structural is an absolute limit. It may be reduced by temperature, wind( anti torque tail rotor aircraft), altitude, humidity, atmospheric pressure etc. Sometimes referrred to as WAT. 



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