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Msg ID: 2785133 OPEIU Life Benefit Beneficiary?  +1/-4     
Author:Suppose it is blank?
6/14/2023 10:26:52 PM

OPEIU gets to keep the cash?

A union having so much cash that it offers a self-funded life insurance policy is collection too much money from it's members! 

But, suppose nobody is listed....   who do they pay if, god forbid, the inevidable?

 

Are they licensed in each State to be an insurance provider (where laws for insurance apply)?



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Msg ID: 2785134 OPEIU Life Benefit Beneficiary?  +3/-1     
Author:you seem awfully worked up
6/14/2023 10:29:15 PM

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about nothing 



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Msg ID: 2785135 Life insurance is a regulated business! (NT) +1/-1     
Author:Anonymous
6/14/2023 10:29:56 PM

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Msg ID: 2785183 A “benefit” is not an “ insurance policy. You failed law school (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Mrlanger goodbye
6/15/2023 5:55:58 PM

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Msg ID: 2785196 Do all those who help fund it have the benefit? (NT) +0/-2     
Author:Anonymous
6/15/2023 9:42:59 PM

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Msg ID: 2785257 Fee’s are for specific purpose which excludes “member” benefits. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Laws are hard….
6/16/2023 8:27:20 PM

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Msg ID: 2785277 Yet, "fees" are full full amounts without the benefits?? +0/-0     
Author:Agency Fee payers are not getting...
6/16/2023 11:30:13 PM

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... reimbursed for all those non-member "benefits" they are paying for!!

 

Their annual "fee" is supposed to be less all those non-member BS add-ons.   So, if the union is refunding members upwards of 100%+ their dues in "member benefits", then they shouldn't be COLLECTING a penny from agency fee payers, period!



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Msg ID: 2785532 fee payers are the welfare recipients and freeloaders (NT) +1/-0     
Author:Of every union. Fact check
6/19/2023 3:02:36 PM

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Msg ID: 2785569 Yet fee payers are paying more than regular members (NT) +0/-0     
Author:So your notion is absurd
6/19/2023 11:25:55 PM

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Msg ID: 2785223 Beg your pardon here, but: +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
6/16/2023 10:12:52 AM

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A death benefit is a payout to the beneficiary of a life insurance policy, annuity, or pension when the insured person or annuitant dies. With life insurance policies, death benefits are not usually subject to income tax and named beneficiaries typically receive the death benefit as a lump-sum payment.



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Msg ID: 2785258 Beg your pardon here, but you are wrong once again. Better check with an (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Actual attorney. U failed CNN lawschool
6/16/2023 8:28:36 PM

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Msg ID: 2785262 Are you an actual attorney? Nah! +0/-0     
Author:I have a certificate of insurance!
6/16/2023 9:36:17 PM

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Owed to my beneficiaries upon death or dismemberment!

So, hopefully, you are not just winging it off the cuff!

And, applied equally now that you've set precedence.

And, thank you agency fee payers, for helping to fund it over and above what the normal regular dues paying member pays!   You, by law, are only suppose to be responsible for fair share costs, which is the fair share cost of union collective bargaining efforts, union contract administration, and grievance prosecution.    All that other nonsense we as regular member's benefit from that you don't (e.g., free Uber service from bars when too drunk to drive, death and/or dismemberment benefits , refunds on TSA line cutting privilages, scholarships for union elitists, annual anniversary dues reimbursements proving we pay too much, COVID "relief" payments for us working when you do too, etc) is simple fun money we appreciate you paying for more than we do ourselves even when we benefit from it and you don't.   As union guys, we like really getting over!

 

https://aftnj.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/A-Guide-to-Fair-Share-or-Agency-Fee-Procedures.pdf

 

Nonchargeable Activities:

Nonchargeable activities are expenses of an ideological or political nature not germane to collective bargaining. The U.S. Supreme Court has acknowledged that the government’s interest in labor peace and security justifies some infringement on employee First Amendment rights. However, unions must limit this infringement only to the extent necessary to combat the problem of free riders, the term used to refer to bargaining unit employees who gain the benefit of representation without paying for its cost. When unions participate in activities not furthering or germane to collective bargaining, it is not necessary to combat free ridership and represents an added encroachment on employee First Amendment rights. The following represents a list of activities found by the courts to be impermissible infringements on nonmember First Amendment rights and, therefore, nonchargeable: 

Lobbying unrelated to implementing or effectuating the collective bargaining agreement 

Organizing workers outside of the bargaining unit (in California organizing expenditures either inside or outside the unit are not allowed at all) ? Litigation not directly effecting the nonmembers' bargaining unit (but some extra-unit litigation is permissible, if it impacts the bargaining unit) 

Union activities not open to nonmember employees

Portions of union publications relating to matters apart from collective bargaining, contract administration and grievance adjustment

Public relations activities unrelated to collective bargaining ? Electoral politics, including ballot and bond issues

Certain costs related to strikes or work stoppages

 

Chargeable Activities:

Chargeable activities are those germane to collective bargaining, contract administration, and grievance adjustment.

Chargeable expenditures need not be directly related to these areas but they must be related in more than a minimal way. In other words, it is not necessary that for national or state dues to be chargeable, that the national and state federation must prove that they provided a certain amount of specific chargeable services to the local in question. The goal of this policy is to allow unions to reap the beneficial effects of affiliation. For example, the national and state offices of the union can bring significant economic, political and informational resources to its locals. Consequently, the locals are simply paying their fair share to receive such benefits, even if they are not needed in a particular year.



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Msg ID: 2785275 Oh, and don't pay us more than we pay ourselves, and (NT) +0/-1     
Author:we'll seek to have you fired!
6/16/2023 11:07:24 PM

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Msg ID: 2785409 That made a ton of sense…. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Re-tod
6/18/2023 10:41:28 AM

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Msg ID: 2785485 you are correct. non members are paying more, which makes zero sense! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:I agree with you there!
6/18/2023 9:45:58 PM

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Msg ID: 2785531 False. Same or less depending on the state you chose to live (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Again, consult an attorney
6/19/2023 3:01:07 PM

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Msg ID: 2785542 BS snake oil guy! if each Pau 100% and you give back 50% to 100% to member +0/-0     
Author:then the others are paying MORE
6/19/2023 6:15:53 PM

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it's simple math.


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Msg ID: 2785543 also, what State you live I. has nothing to do with it! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
6/19/2023 6:18:06 PM

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Msg ID: 2785136 I know of a 109 pilot who's by-law beneficiaries never saw a  +0/-6     
Author:penny!
6/14/2023 10:32:54 PM

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OPEIU didn't even attempt to look for her!   It was never paid out!

 



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Msg ID: 2785184 Fake news! Records prove your story false (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Nice try
6/15/2023 5:56:46 PM

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Msg ID: 2785194 well. ya'll missed one! (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
6/15/2023 9:28:35 PM

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Msg ID: 2785153 OPEIU Life Benefit Beneficiary?  +2/-1     
Author:if I were you
6/15/2023 11:55:37 AM

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I'd call the union and ask them all your questions. but that really isn't the point is it. the point is to try to stir up trouble. in other words, you're a troll.



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Msg ID: 2785160 You're not me! And, these aren't questions! "Trouble" is already there (NT) +0/-2     
Author:this helps to point it out!
6/15/2023 1:58:24 PM

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Msg ID: 2785175 OPEIU Life Benefit Beneficiary?  +0/-0     
Author:olderendirt
6/15/2023 3:52:57 PM

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Without a specific beneficiary, wouldn't the life insurance benefit be part of the insured's estate?

Trust me, settling estates, even with sound wills and testaments, can be and often is a nasty, throat-cutting.



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Msg ID: 2785178 Do they maintain a funded escrow for benefits (NT) +0/-1     
Author:most State insurance laws require such
6/15/2023 4:44:54 PM

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Msg ID: 2785179 Do they maintain a funded escrow for benefits (NT) +0/-1     
Author:most State insurance laws require such
6/15/2023 4:47:20 PM

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Msg ID: 2785185 A survivors benefit is not an insurance policy by law.You would know that (NT) +1/-0     
Author:If you were an attorney
6/15/2023 5:58:14 PM

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Msg ID: 2785225 Beg your pardon here, but: +0/-2     
Author:It is a certificate of insurance!
6/16/2023 10:44:24 AM

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A death benefit is a payout to the beneficiary of a life insurance policy, annuity, or pension when the insured person or annuitant dies. With life insurance policies, death benefits are not usually subject to income tax and named beneficiaries typically receive the death benefit as a lump-sum payment.



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Msg ID: 2785272 So, the "lawyers" must have been on a coffee break when this was sent? +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
6/16/2023 10:52:27 PM

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OPEIU/PHPA Benefit
PHPA International
 
 
 
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Thank you to those who have completed and sent the free member benefit Life Insurance enrollment form to PHPA.  For the rest of you; it's free, there's no catch and it's strictly a Benefit of Membership as an OPEIU Aviation member.  This Life Insurance package for all Pilot members across OPEIU / PHPA, was created as a result of lobbying for such a benefit. 

 

Reminder:  The Insurance has two components, one each from OPEIU and PHPA for a total of $5,000.  In the event of accidental death, the benefit doubles to $10,000.

Click here for the enrollment form; please take advantage of this program.

 

 

Thank you,

Xxxxx

Office Manager

PHPA International

OPEIU Local 109

354 S. Daleville Ave, Suite B

Daleville, AL 36322-2349

334-598-1031

(fax) 334-598-1032
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Msg ID: 2785274 Got to love the lingo "It Free" (NT) +0/-2     
Author:non member saps are paying for it
6/16/2023 10:57:12 PM

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Msg ID: 2785410 OPEIU benefit has an actual bond and is a designated benefit… (NT) +1/-0     
Author:Grow up and do research
6/18/2023 10:42:55 AM

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Msg ID: 2785484 So back to the OPs unanswered question.... what if the beneficiary (NT) +0/-0     
Author:is blank? what happens to the cash?
6/18/2023 9:42:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2799787 If I win the lottery but die before collecting, who gets the money? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Same/o same/o
11/26/2023 1:43:46 PM

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