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Msg ID: 2782700 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s (NT) +1/-1     
Author:Southeast region
5/13/2023 12:40:40 PM


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Msg ID: 2782702 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +6/-4     
Author:Really
5/13/2023 12:42:35 PM

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Because the 130 is junk and getting people killed.


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Msg ID: 2782706 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +4/-5     
Author:Bell is Bose
5/13/2023 12:59:38 PM

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Since the B407 was introduced in the late 90's, many of it's bugs and quawks have been worked out.  It now has become one the fastest, most reliable, cost effective and EMS friendly helicopter available.  



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Msg ID: 2782781 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +2/-0     
Author:I must agree
5/13/2023 9:30:20 PM

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But seems like these French folks have invaded this thread. Buy American!! 



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Msg ID: 2782707 Suddenly? Didn't the contract with Bell years ago to (NT) +0/-0     
Author:to do this?
5/13/2023 1:13:11 PM

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Msg ID: 2782708 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +4/-3     
Author:Maybe
5/13/2023 1:45:48 PM

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cause the supports sucks like the plastic fantastic French piec of 💩🤔



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Msg ID: 2782709 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +1/-0     
Author:Spifr
5/13/2023 2:02:31 PM

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Spifr on the 407? 



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Msg ID: 2782710 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +0/-3     
Author:Have fun
5/13/2023 2:08:13 PM

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Dying 



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Msg ID: 2782738 Yep, without 2 engines, IFR is 100% fatal. (NT) +0/-2     
Author:You're a genius.
5/13/2023 3:09:59 PM

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Msg ID: 2782739 Yep, without 2 engines, IFR is 100% fatal. +1/-0     
Author:Is for the
5/13/2023 3:36:28 PM

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Military huh. Have fun in yur tiny single IMC advocating a 407 is better than a 429 ya dumdum



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Msg ID: 2782776 No question, you're a genius. Thanks for (NT) +0/-1     
Author:making my point.
5/13/2023 8:51:14 PM

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Msg ID: 2782905 Yep, without 2 engines, IFR is 100% fatal. +0/-2     
Author:Real pilot
5/14/2023 4:43:32 PM

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You do realize that all the recent accidents are twins? I have over 6000 hours in single and over 1000 hours twin. The only time I've had an engin issue was in a twin. I'd fly the 407GXi IFR all day. Or a twin. It's what I do.



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Msg ID: 2782906 Yep, without 2 engines, IFR is 100% fatal. +0/-0     
Author:say wut
5/14/2023 4:45:12 PM

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no, not all of them. few of them actually. I don't care what you do bro



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Msg ID: 2782770 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +1/-0     
Author:SPIFR 407 GXi
5/13/2023 7:40:38 PM

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Saw this the other day... very interesting, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOcLJibV1Vw



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Msg ID: 2782750 Alabaman Lifesaver crews deemed the 130 “unsafe” and cried and complained  +2/-2     
Author:Got what they wished for….whiners!
5/13/2023 5:05:16 PM

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You don't like your aircraft at air methods just cry whine and say it's unsafe and why will apparently just get what you want only to screw over the others bases in the same area.



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Msg ID: 2782767 Alabaman Lifesaver crews deemed the 130 “unsafe” and cried and complained  +1/-0     
Author:That’s a
5/13/2023 7:27:58 PM

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Med crew thing? Or pilots on same sheet of music?



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Msg ID: 2782780 Well, we know at least one of them was (NT) +1/-2     
Author:somewhat unsafe.
5/13/2023 9:10:57 PM

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Msg ID: 2782818 No, you really don't know anything. (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Might not have been the acft!
5/14/2023 12:37:19 AM

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Msg ID: 2782944 I know when a 407 rolls on it's side, it doesn't (NT) +2/-1     
Author:kill everyone on that side.
5/14/2023 7:58:56 PM

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Msg ID: 2782979 Sounds safe to me.... Not! +2/-0     
Author:For Immediate Release:
5/14/2023 10:53:47 PM

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https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20221202.aspx

 

 



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Msg ID: 2782995 no one died...see the (NT) +0/-1     
Author:difference?
5/15/2023 1:11:36 AM

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Msg ID: 2783024 Oh, I see, general safety wasn't your criteria. Well +1/-0     
Author:how about these then:
5/15/2023 9:21:16 AM

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https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/95805/pdf

 

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/85944/pdf

 

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/59956/pdf

 

 



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Msg ID: 2783042 Oh, I see, general safety wasn't your criteria. Well +0/-1     
Author:Your facts
5/15/2023 1:17:01 PM

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Cited here won't be popular 



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Msg ID: 2782956 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +3/-2     
Author:Should
5/14/2023 9:05:27 PM

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have never put them in service to start with.



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Msg ID: 2783174 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +0/-0     
Author:Didn’t they announce a few years
5/17/2023 7:39:03 PM

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Ago at HAI GM they were buying a bunch if 407s? 



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Msg ID: 2783179 Yup. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
5/17/2023 10:46:32 PM

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Msg ID: 2783410 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +0/-0     
Author:Repercussions
5/21/2023 5:09:14 PM

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Not a bad idea.  Most of the aluminum and titanium used at Airbus came from Russia/Ukraine.  The rest is from Britain.  Britain wants to trade with North America but in order to do that they have to stop sending their metal to Airbus and send it to Boeing.

If that happens; does Airbus prioritize airplanes or helicopters?



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Msg ID: 2783438 Why is air methods suddenly getting rid of the ec130s and going back 407s +0/-0     
Author:STL206
5/21/2023 9:20:25 PM

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if you take a cold soaked 130 and put it in a heated hangar the windshield will crack.  then after replacing it the glue has to cure for 3 days before putting it back in service. 



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