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Msg ID: 2771157 Balloon pump +4/-6     
Author:Medic bas-tard
4/5/2023 11:13:39 PM

This character. I live in a hilly area, not quite mountainous. He constantly is on my case about flying at the same altitude the whole leg. Takes me an hour to get to the hospital. He says the balloon pump has to be adjusted for each change in altitude. 
i fly 1000 AGL most places. Getting real tired of his mouth. Might shut it for him. 



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Msg ID: 2771161 Balloon pump +0/-2     
Author:Retired
4/6/2023 12:56:55 AM

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quick



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Msg ID: 2771162 Balloon pump +2/-3     
Author:407 guy
4/6/2023 2:11:38 AM

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Reading this makes me thankful that I don't have med crew like that at my base. I feel for ya. That would be incredibly frustrating. Maybe you can remind him of the sterile cockpit policy and tell him his comments are a distraction to you. I've never had a crew member complain like that while using a balloon pump and changing altitudes.


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Msg ID: 2771172 Balloon pump +8/-5     
Author:Really dude
4/6/2023 8:43:51 AM

Reply to: 2771162
Just pick an altitude that clears all obstacles and maintain it. Work with the idiot the best you can.


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Msg ID: 2771174 what does he have to do driving in the back of an ambulance (NT) +5/-0     
Author:over all those hills?
4/6/2023 8:47:06 AM

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Msg ID: 2771186 Balloon pump +4/-7     
Author:random
4/6/2023 10:24:12 AM

Reply to: 2771157

Why not realize they are your customer and your job is to meet their needs and just fly a constant altitude.



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Msg ID: 2771193 Balloon pump +1/-0     
Author:Who is the customer?
4/6/2023 11:02:49 AM

Reply to: 2771186

The patient is the customer?

or the med crew is the customer?

or the med crew are crew members?

or the med crew are crew members and also your customer?

make it make sense 



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Msg ID: 2771204 Balloon pump +1/-0     
Author:it's simple
4/6/2023 12:02:01 PM

Reply to: 2771193

whoever is signing your check wants the customer to be, that is your customer.



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Msg ID: 2771207 Balloon pump +1/-0     
Author:That’s
4/6/2023 12:11:01 PM

Reply to: 2771204

The most logical answer I've heard for one of the dumbest dynamics ever created. 



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Msg ID: 2771208 med crews are not your customer, they are your crewmember working (NT) +0/-1     
Author:for you under your HAA certificate
4/6/2023 12:13:59 PM

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Msg ID: 2771209 med crews are not your customer, they are your crewmember working +0/-0     
Author:Maybe
4/6/2023 12:19:41 PM

Reply to: 2771208

Maybe not 



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Msg ID: 2771255 med crews are not your customer, they are your crewmember working +0/-0     
Author:my name is on the certificate
4/6/2023 6:39:04 PM

Reply to: 2771208

not a single med crew name on it, though. weird.



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Msg ID: 2771631 Balloon pump +0/-0     
Author:They
4/9/2023 6:53:12 PM

Reply to: 2771186

are team mates, the patient is the customer.  Work together, no one dominates until necessary and at that point  the pilot is in charge by federal regulations.



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Msg ID: 2771192 Balloon pump +1/-0     
Author:do you identify as a man or a weasle
4/6/2023 11:00:52 AM

Reply to: 2771157

Im thinking weasle



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Msg ID: 2771206 Balloon pump +3/-0     
Author:Yep
4/6/2023 12:09:37 PM

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Bill Weasel:. by MattsArtParadise on DeviantArt



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Msg ID: 2771194 Balloon pump +0/-4     
Author:when you get to recurrent training
4/6/2023 11:02:59 AM

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ask them to teach you how to hold altitude. it sounds like you missed that one during your private.



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Msg ID: 2771229 Balloon pump +0/-1     
Author:oldNtired
4/6/2023 2:54:06 PM

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Just have your crew chief or mechanic or what ever you call him go to an Aircraft salvage yard and get a cabin pressure altitude controller out of an old Lear or Citation, no plumbing, just the gage and have it installed into an empty hole in the panel.  Everytime he whines just say sorry, I will adjust the pressure . Tweek the little round knob and everyone will be happy.



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Msg ID: 2771254 Balloon pump +1/-0     
Author:say wut
4/6/2023 6:37:20 PM

Reply to: 2771157

dude just told everybody he can't hold altitude lol



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Msg ID: 2771270 Balloon pump +0/-0     
Author:Spoder
4/6/2023 10:02:37 PM

Reply to: 2771157
Just be a good vendor pilot and do your job. Easy enough.


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Msg ID: 2771278 Be a real pilot and tell the little (NT) +1/-1     
Author:Pansy to do his own job and shut up
4/6/2023 11:29:33 PM

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Msg ID: 2771336 Be a real pilot and tell the little  +0/-0     
Author:yeah
4/7/2023 2:20:30 PM

Reply to: 2771278

that's what the real pilots do lol



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Msg ID: 2771279 Balloon pump +2/-0     
Author:anony
4/6/2023 11:37:15 PM

Reply to: 2771270

It's rare I'll agree with the medcrew but on this one there is a truth in what he is requesting.  The balloon pump once out of it's carrier only has a limited supply of helium.  For every inch of pressure change from the pressure altitude the balloon pump was calibrated at (the patients room) it will recalibrate and that costs helium.  There is only enough helium, assuming you started with everything full, for 6 changes.  So 3 on the climb, 3 on the descent.  The goal is to fly only high enough to be safe and legal.  Once you get to appx 1000' above where you started it will recal, if you go to 2000' it will do it again, this will continue every 1 inch change in pressure.  If you keep going up and down along the flight path, climb over a ridge, drop back down, then climb over a second ridge and down again you will cause extra calibrations and ensuing loss of helium.  Just get to where you need to be and stay there.  If you are flying in a larger aircraft that can accept the pump and its carrier than its not much of an issue.  For those of you flying in the mountains I'd be curious how you are doing balloon pumps where you are climbing up over large ranges and coming back down again.



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Msg ID: 2771288 Balloon pump +0/-0     
Author:Gap
4/7/2023 5:28:04 AM

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The job is pretty easy when the medcrew is happy.  Do whatever is reasonable.  Upset em and there will be nothing you can do, theyll get ya run off fast!  



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Msg ID: 2771348 Balloon pump (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Go by ground, next
4/7/2023 4:15:52 PM

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Msg ID: 2771349 Balloon pump (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Tell Med P. to get off Facebook
4/7/2023 4:36:21 PM

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Msg ID: 2771630 Balloon pump +1/-2     
Author:Flew
4/9/2023 6:46:26 PM

Reply to: 2771157

maybe 75 IABPs.  Never heard that one but may have some merit.  Talk to aviation management.



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Msg ID: 2779577 NO AND THIS IS WHY +1/-1     
Author:Cardiologist
4/14/2023 9:47:25 PM

Reply to: 2771157

If the trigger were the arterial ine you would because it is zero referenced to atmospheric pressure, but if the pressure was flucuating you would switch to an ecg trigger. What trumps all that is all ballon pumps now have a built in fiberoptic trigger on the balloon catheter that doesnt depend on either and still have ecg as a back up trigger but you will never need it because they just doent fail. Medic knows just enough to be dangerous.



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Msg ID: 2779603 NO AND THIS IS WHY +1/-0     
Author:Logical
4/15/2023 10:29:08 AM

Reply to: 2779577

Probably why this med person seems like a disturbed person.



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