Today I got written up for not doing ground runs in a class Delta airspace while it was IFR. FAA says "aircraft moving under its own power is an aircraft in flight". 

I didn't have an IFR clearance so I didn't do the ground runs. Discuss. 

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please tell me you are kidding. 

you are one of those clowns that logs flight time as long as the rotor is turning.

At least you're consistent.

What part of California? Only place in the country that's IFR 

Beverly Hills 

hook line sinker

same with a helicopter on wheels

IOWs, you don't need a tower clearance to hover taxi in a non-movement area on the ramp, or need an IFR clearance to hover or air taxi from one point on the airport to the other, or to RUN UP and do HOVER CHECKS. 

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/practice_areas/regulations/interpretations/Data/interps/2008/Lloyd_2008_Legal_Interpretation.pdfa>

Just remember that as defined in FAR 1,   Time in service for MX records starts when it leaves the ground.   Ergo log time/leg cyc/starts as required.   

FAA= "the time the A/C leaves the earth until it touches back down" vs Block time "when the A/C moves under it's OWN pwr!!!" Morons !!! 🤢🤡

You guys are all off base. IFR clearance needed. It was a VFR aircraft. 

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/practice_areas/regulations/interpretations/Data/interps/2008/Lloyd_2008_Legal_Interpretation.pdfa>

Fake News 

it happens to be things like this that actually do wind up becoming a subject.  As ridiculous as it sounds there has to be some weenie Fed-type who would latch on to something like this and run with it.

how the FAA works by telling me how you think the FAA works.

"bEcOmES A sUBjEcT"

to AFS 800 lately?

Really?

Prove your knowledg.

Everybody has an opinion, but I have the facts. You must file IFR to do ground runs In IFR conditions. 

You need more oil for this slippery slope you've presented us with.

What does doing ground runs with a helicopter with zero intention of flight have to do with following airborne visibility requirements set forth by the FAA? Or do you just like to stir crap up because your a sad pathetic HAA Pilot? 

You HAA pilots are the most pathetic losers in the aviation world. 

EMS lol

Let's agree to disagree. But I'm right. 

Anything below 100' at an airport is considered to be a surface operation. That means you can air taxi, hover taxi or just be there running and not need an IFR clearance.

I went through this before because we have an hospital with two helipads about 60 yards apart. The base is at one pad and the IFR departure starts at the other. So, we airtaxi to the other pad for the IFR departure.

I am really hoping the pilot in question was just trolling. There is absolutely nothing against regulation prohibiting ground and hover checks below basic VFR weather. 

Some 15 or 20 years ago when I lived in Fl there was a drunk airline pilot taxiing out for a flight. They hauled him off and duuring the court case FAA wrote a rule defining operating an aircraft, which either intentionally or not brought mechanics into the same "operating" group. That pilot was busted for "operating" the aircraft.

intention of flight is the key, not operating

If it is IFR I just get a special vfr clearance. 

Lemme guess. The mechanics all get quiet when you walk into the room?

How far you actually going in a "ground run" to be considered "in-flight"?

Did you meant to say "hover checks"?

Too luch twirling has me confused 🫤 

How far you actually going in a "ground run" to be considered "in-flight"?

Did you meant to say "hover checks"?

Too luch twirling has me confused 🫤