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Msg ID: 2768775 Fort Rucker +4/-2     
Author:RTAGer
3/20/2023 7:58:51 PM

Soon to be a memory.  The Rucker signage is coming down and Fort Novasel signage is replacing it.

 



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Msg ID: 2768777 woke gone mad (NT) +11/-2     
Author:Anonymous
3/20/2023 8:08:05 PM

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Msg ID: 2768778 Fort Rucker +12/-0     
Author:Woke Up
3/20/2023 8:08:58 PM

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This is absolutely ridiculous, but at least the Novasel's are worthy!  



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Msg ID: 2768780 Fort Rucker +12/-2     
Author:BigT
3/20/2023 8:18:03 PM

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Alabama ought to tell the feds to leave.



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Msg ID: 2768786 They did that once, didn't turn out well. (NT) +4/-1     
Author:Just sayin'
3/20/2023 8:35:06 PM

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Msg ID: 2768805 They did that once, didn't turn out well. +1/-2     
Author:history
3/20/2023 11:58:11 PM

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Ask oll Rucker himself, he'd know.



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Msg ID: 2768797 Fort Rucker +2/-0     
Author:Those
3/20/2023 9:47:25 PM

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worthy of change, going and coming, are both honorable.



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Msg ID: 2769223 Fort Rucker +1/-0     
Author:APC
3/24/2023 11:09:08 AM

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It was ridiculous to name it Camp Rucker in the first place.  Rucker never even served in the US Army before or after the Civil War.  



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Msg ID: 2768787 Fort Rucker +9/-0     
Author:Knew
3/20/2023 8:43:52 PM

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Mike Novosel from 1972 onwards.  Very solid man in all manner of speak.  You'd be proud to know him.



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Msg ID: 2768788 Fort Rucker +2/-1     
Author:Havoc
3/20/2023 8:49:49 PM

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Msg ID: 2768795 Fort Rucker +1/-1     
Author:666
3/20/2023 9:19:23 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Novosel



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Msg ID: 2768862 Fort Rucker +1/-0     
Author:Linky
3/21/2023 1:40:35 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Novosel

 



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Msg ID: 2768809 Fort Rucker +15/-0     
Author:OB
3/21/2023 2:18:51 AM

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Novasel is definitely worthy but it will always be MOTHER RUCKER to me!!!!!



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Msg ID: 2768851 Fort Rucker +2/-2     
Author:the funny thing is
3/21/2023 12:08:45 PM

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most didn't know who any of these people were until all the woke hoopla started. I always assumed they were dead generals but that was about it.


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Msg ID: 2768854 Fort Rucker +7/-9     
Author:there shouldn't be anything
3/21/2023 12:28:19 PM

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in this country named after a confederate soldier. no statues, nothing. traitors, every one of them.



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Msg ID: 2768891 I guess we should still be shooting Brits too... (NT) +1/-5     
Author:what a tool.
3/21/2023 6:20:28 PM

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Msg ID: 2768925 I guess we should still be shooting Brits too... +3/-1     
Author:see any statues of brits around?
3/21/2023 10:21:04 PM

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me neither



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Msg ID: 2768931 Winston Churchill, Washington D.C. (NT) +0/-3     
Author:Thanks for playing
3/21/2023 11:10:04 PM

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Msg ID: 2769032 Winston Churchill, Washington D.C. +4/-2     
Author:well
3/22/2023 8:03:17 PM

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churchill did not attack his own citizens in an attempt to keep slavery going, so there's that. 



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Msg ID: 2769433 I guess we should still be shooting Brits too... +2/-1     
Author:New IP Guy
3/26/2023 7:28:27 PM

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A Fort, or Camp, or other military installation is not a statue. Take your autism elsewhere.



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Msg ID: 2769029 Fort Rucker +0/-0     
Author:Yeup
3/22/2023 7:59:21 PM

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And the same garbage is about destruction.  Better if such names as Mike Novosel come up in further makings, not controversial/political garbage like this.  I wonder what is on Mike's mind in this matter.  I'm sure it would be positive and constructive - he always was.  His legacy.



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Msg ID: 2768853 Fort Rucker +5/-1     
Author::-)
3/21/2023 12:27:38 PM

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Yeah. Regardless of how you feel about the name change, you gotta admit that they couldn't have picked a badder-ass dude to honor with the renaming.


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Msg ID: 2768920 Fort Rucker +1/-1     
Author:Anonymous
3/21/2023 9:53:29 PM

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man who walked with God on his shoulder all the way.  That's the secret.



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Msg ID: 2768855 Hey Bubblegumers (NT) +0/-1     
Author:There's no A in Novosel
3/21/2023 12:32:29 PM

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Msg ID: 2768863 Apple doesn't fall far +1/-0     
Author:From the tree
3/21/2023 1:48:26 PM

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Father and Son. Great story...

 

https://goefoundation.org/eagles/novosel-michael-j-jr/

 



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Msg ID: 2768880 I'd be all for renaming Fort Rucker Fort Novosel. +3/-1     
Author:olderendirt
3/21/2023 4:00:40 PM

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I'd be all for renaming Fort Rucker "Fort Novosel".

I was in Vietnam at the same time as Mr Novosel and may have been present at some of his Medevac flights.

I remember one medevac that I covered with a Cobra team (and the USAF and the VNAF) that could well have been Mr Novosel:

Evening, and dusk is falling in the far south of Vietnam. My Cobra team had landed to refuel and rearm as I headed to the same stage field to refuel and brief for the nights' missions. Camau radio asked if I could do a medevac on the near side of the U Minh: of course I could (one didn't decline medevacs).

I turned West and called those on-site for a sit rep and the pick-up site came into view- a dry rice paddy dike taking fire frome the front and the side from L-shaped tree lines. I 'waren't' looking forward to that LZ, fire coming from the front or back and one side!

And then a VNAF Spooky showed up, checked in and I set up for the approach. And I heard the voice of an angel with salvation "Dustoff *** is 5 minutes out, whatcha got?" on the FM. My job changed to my more typical assignment, coordinating my Cobra team with what was happening...

I'm doing high right hand orbits over the Snakes and Spooky when Dustoff landed, the tree lines sparking with muzzle blasts and dust kicking up all around as the ground guys stuffed the wounded on board... not a peep out of Dustoff asking for more smoke on the bad guys. Honest to pete- the tree lines looked like they had christmas tree lights all over. I'm very, very happy not to be listyening to those rounds coming through my aircraft.

Dustoff takes a turning rise to a nose down departure away from all the hate.

 

35 years later I asked a fellow pilot who'd flown medevac there at that time if he had been the pilot? He wasn't sure, Dustoff were flying non-stop for 24, 36 and 48 hour duty periods and he was afraid he's slept through some excitement....



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Msg ID: 2768930 When are we going to rename the capital... (NT) +2/-1     
Author:George Washington owned slaves.
3/21/2023 10:58:38 PM

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Msg ID: 2768970 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +3/-5     
Author:Indian chiefs/tribes we beat in the war?
3/22/2023 10:42:57 AM

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rhetorical! just pointing out hypocrisy where I see it.


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Msg ID: 2768974 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +4/-4     
Author:uh
3/22/2023 11:10:13 AM

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apples and watermelons. The Indians were trying to protect THEIR OWN LAND. The confederates declared war against their own country and are traitors.



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Msg ID: 2769000 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +2/-3     
Author:When those forts were named
3/22/2023 3:57:28 PM

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there were people around that actually remembered the Civil War. They obviously didn't have a problem with it. Why would anyone care what a little woke troll has to say. DISMISSED!


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Msg ID: 2769028 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +0/-1     
Author:HERstory Lesson
3/22/2023 7:56:49 PM

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Those Forts were named for Southern Generals for a reason...to appease the humiliated South. The more you know...



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Msg ID: 2769033 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +3/-2     
Author:where did you come up with that
3/22/2023 8:06:14 PM

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nonsense. "The bases were originally named as part of a movement to glorify the Confederacy and advance the Lost Cause myth that the Civil War was fought over “states' rights” and not slavery." 

we don't need to appease loser traitors decades later. what's the saying...get over it.



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Msg ID: 2769057 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +1/-4     
Author:hahaha
3/22/2023 9:40:24 PM

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"we don't need to appease loser traitors decades later. what's the saying...get over it"

What's with the "we"?  You weren't in the Civil War.  My guess is that you weren't in any wars.  You're just a pencil-necked little troll who is still trying to get back at the rough boys that used to take your lunch money. 

What a sad sack of sh*t you must be.



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Msg ID: 2769058 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +2/-1     
Author:we, as in not the loser traitors
3/22/2023 10:02:29 PM

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I thought that was clear since that's what I said. lol. I wasn't in the civil war but I got a medal in the war on christmas when I was injured on the battlefield at an alabama walmart and have ptsd like a mother. thank me for my service.



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Msg ID: 2769222 and take down all the monuments and rename all those +0/-0     
Author:APC
3/24/2023 11:05:58 AM

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Rucker never made it to General, only Colonel.  He wound up being a prominent businessman in Alabama.  Unlike Lee or Jackson he never even served in the US Army.  



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Msg ID: 2769226 So were confederates! (NT) +1/-0     
Author:Anonymous
3/24/2023 11:26:37 AM

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Msg ID: 2769284 a state is sovereign. it was their own land. (NT) +0/-0     
Author:the Yankees are on Indian land too!
3/24/2023 8:41:15 PM

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