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Msg ID: 2768592 S-55 job posted +0/-1     
Author:Cherry Drying
3/19/2023 1:52:01 PM

Is it legal to say that this is a 7 day on / 7 day on position till the season ends?



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Msg ID: 2768593 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:See Schedules at end
3/19/2023 1:56:04 PM

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https://www.lni.wa.gov/workers-rights/workplace-policies/rest-breaks-meal-periods-and-schedules

 

How does this apply to Aviation?

 



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Msg ID: 2768622 S-55 job posted +6/-1     
Author:Eye roller
3/19/2023 6:15:05 PM

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Apply or don't!



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Msg ID: 2768672 S-55 job posted +2/-2     
Author:Former Dryer
3/20/2023 10:03:28 AM

Reply to: 2768592

Cherry-drying is boring. BO-ring. Here's why: Cherries continually absorb water when it rains. If they absorb too much water they split open, reducing the "pack-out" or percentage of cherries from that orchard that are acceptable to the packing sheds. The pickers are taught to discern good cherries from bad cherries. Growers plant cherries...guess where?...right, where it does not rain a lot, like the interior of Washington State where it is VERY dry. So cherry-drying pilots sit around, and sit around, and sit around, praying for rain. But it might not come - you might spend days or weeks or even a month without turning a blade, depending on whether it's a dry or wet month (spoiler alert: it's usually dry). On a really rainy day (they happen), you might fly nine or even ten hours, only shutting down for refuel and defuel. But that will be the exception rather than the rule. If you're a snowflake who's obsessed with rules about breaks and days off, then maybe you should seek another line of work than aviation.

One minor nitpick with the ad: It's a little misleading. Jamie fails to make clear that the "SIC" positions are unpaid. "SIC's" go there to (maybe) build some time in the S-55 but there's no pay involved, unless that's changed since he bought the company. The "compensation" (which is why you need a Commercial cert just to be a "copilot") comes in the form of room and board for two months and, of course, any flight time you gain during the gig. Whether you're PIC or "SIC," it's a fun job, and a lot of guys/gals who are successful pilots today have gotten their start in it.



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Msg ID: 2768685 S-55 job posted +1/-0     
Author:say wut
3/20/2023 11:11:41 AM

Reply to: 2768672

just a minor thing that they don't tell you you won't be getting paid and cherry drying is boring because you don't do anything but don't obsess over rules and stuff because the real men in aviation ignore them. lol



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Msg ID: 2768692 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:how do you get a start in
3/20/2023 11:39:45 AM

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helicopters with a job like that. it may be a stop along the way but you sure as hell don't get a start in aviation with a job that might get you 50 whole hours a year over two months



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Msg ID: 2768695 S-55 job posted +0/-2     
Author:There
3/20/2023 11:47:01 AM

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Are people on their second career that would get on their knees and blow anyone to be able to get their start. I've seen people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to become a pilot late in life thinking they going to make it into the industry and be successful when in reality they don't have what it takes to get into it. Being young, free, dumb, not held down in anyway, makes it a lot easier to go out and secure those few thousand hours to break in.

 

the days of having 1500hrs min are over, there is alot of competition out there currently.



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Msg ID: 2768700 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:say wut
3/20/2023 12:08:52 PM

Reply to: 2768695

nobody spends hundreds of thousands on training and the minimums haven't changed in 20 years. you want to dry cherries, go dry cherries but it won't do anything for a career. your post is just random dumb words that don't make any sense bro



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Msg ID: 2768736 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:Rosanna Danna
3/20/2023 3:46:17 PM

Reply to: 2768672

It's so fun it's boring? Or is it so boring it's fun?

Never mind.



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Msg ID: 2768737 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:this is why it's boring
3/20/2023 3:52:19 PM

Reply to: 2768736

something about water in the cherries and you don't fly a lot. also, don't obsess about time off or something like that.



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Msg ID: 2768794 Fun, or not so fun? +0/-0     
Author:Former Dryer
3/20/2023 9:16:35 PM

Reply to: 2768736

Rosanna Danna typed: "It's so fun it's boring? Or is it so boring it's fun?"

I really, really, really wish that helicopter pilots had better reading comprehension skills. It might make me think more highly of them! So with a big sigh I will explain it like I'm talking to a fifth grader. And maybe I am.

The task of cherry-dryhing is boring. Up and down the rows, back and forth at a slow hover - make sure you get EVERY tree, not just most of them. Then, you get done and the farmer says they're still wet, so you go back and do them again. It can be tedious, or, put another way: boring.  It's like mowing an endless lawn.  Believe it or not, it's not that easy. I've sent home a couple of "old-timers" (even a CFI or two) who just couldn't hack it. Hovering is a perishable skill, I reckon, and once we're out doing our professional pilot stuff, we don't do a lot of hovering. We usually just pick up and go.  Low-timers "get it" quicker than old-timers.  

But the job can be fun. It's always a great group of guys/gals of widely varying experience levels. The camaraderie is enjoyable. There's plenty of opportunity to sit around and shoot the bull with like-minded people. I found that even the least experienced pilot had valuable input. You can learn something from any pilot if you're willing to be open and not so set in  your SkyGod ways.  So yes, cherry-drying itself is boring, but the job can be fun.

 



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Msg ID: 2768761 It's a boring job, BO-ring +1/-0     
Author:Also "It's a fun job"
3/20/2023 5:42:49 PM

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Unpaid SIC sounds like a blast, BL-AST. Sign me right up. I feel like even boatpix was better than that, at least they flew!



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Msg ID: 2768791 S-55 job posted +2/-0     
Author:And
3/20/2023 9:02:03 PM

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the light at the end of the tunnel is two months only!!!

The S55 is a 1st generation helicopter.  There aren't many opportunities to go back in time!!



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Msg ID: 2768926 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:fly a 300
3/21/2023 10:23:18 PM

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you don't have to waste 2 months of your life and still get all the nostalgia you can stand



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Msg ID: 2768747 S-55 job posted +0/-0     
Author:Dummy
3/20/2023 4:34:04 PM

Reply to: 2768592

 Why would anyone take this job? experience in an S-55 is as useful as experience on a sissy bar Schwinn with a fat slick back tire.

  You'll get no pay and no usful time for an entire summer. If you're gonna live for room and board at least make it worth somthing and go to Alaska tours for no money.



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Msg ID: 2768796 Why do it? +2/-1     
Author:Former Dryer
3/20/2023 9:37:43 PM

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Why take the job? It's true that time in an S-55 won't get you a job flying an EMS 350. But the old Sikorsky is a unique, interesting helicopter: Big radial engine, no throttle correlator to speak of, primitive systems and a 7500-pound max gross. Oh yeah, a deafening roar that'll wear out the batteries in your noise-canceling headset faster than those in Madonna's vibrator. So while the S-55 doesn't have any modern equivalent, it's just kooky enough to get some respect from future Chief Pilots, especially if you can accurately recite the starting procedure, which means you probably really did fly it. Plus, there's a turbine conversion, which they have three of, that everyone wants to get time in.

As for flight time, I always let my copilots do all the flying.They were Commercially-rated and current, and so could legally log the time. And yeah, some years were slow, but some seasons we'd do 75-100 hours. Flying an old relic (that my father flew in the Korean War) might not be your cup of tea, so don't do it!  But for an adventurious pilot who wants to try something different, it's a pretty cool thing to do for two months if you have the summer off.  (And no, the "SIC's" don't get paid, but the PIC's do.)



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Msg ID: 2768839 Why do it? +0/-0     
Author:Chief pilots don’t care about
3/21/2023 9:55:24 AM

Reply to: 2768796

your 20 hours in a kooky helicopter 



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Msg ID: 2768798 S-55 job posted +2/-1     
Author:BUT you get
3/20/2023 9:53:40 PM

Reply to: 2768747

to experience a generations enthusiasm for flight 60-70 years past.  You'll love the nostalgia it brings to you for the rest of your life!  Life is about living and character brought to the fore through experience.  Be someone you envy, not someone others define.



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Msg ID: 2768801 S-55 job posted +0/-1     
Author:how stoned do you have to be
3/20/2023 10:20:25 PM

Reply to: 2768798

to write that crap



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Msg ID: 2768899 S-55 job posted +1/-0     
Author:High
3/21/2023 7:32:38 PM

Reply to: 2768801

on life, same same stoned to millennials....jelly beans for you.



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Msg ID: 2768928 S-55 job posted +1/-0     
Author:Not
3/21/2023 10:47:08 PM

Reply to: 2768801

much in your wheel house!  Day to day, eh?



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