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Msg ID: 2766536 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-0     
Author:What’s the catch?
2/27/2023 12:26:10 AM

Gotta be several "or else clauses", paid in increments over 5 or 10 years.  One complaint and all void. 



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Msg ID: 2766537 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +1/-1     
Author:It’s an up to 50, not 50
2/27/2023 1:12:40 AM

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One thing about PHI, they don't lie. They may treat you poorly but they don't lie. It's probably half after training and the other half I don't know.



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Msg ID: 2766629 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +1/-0     
Author:Maverick
2/27/2023 7:46:19 PM

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No, they probably don't lie. They just remain quite all the time. Communications are very bad.



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Msg ID: 2766541 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +9/-0     
Author:The catch is
2/27/2023 6:19:40 AM

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You still only get 3% 401k even though they still tout up to 6%



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Msg ID: 2766542 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-1     
Author:That wouldn’t be
2/27/2023 7:04:16 AM

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a deal breaker for me



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Msg ID: 2766630 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-1     
Author:Maverick
2/27/2023 7:50:55 PM

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No actually you don't get the 3%. Ever since the bankruptcy the 401 became "DISCRETIONARY" based on the financial performance of the company. If the goals are not met you get zero. Like last year. If the goals are met you can receive up to the 3% so long as you are putting in your part. Very poor plan. 



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Msg ID: 2766660 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-0     
Author:401k
2/28/2023 6:10:38 AM

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I'm pretty sure the first 3% is guaranteed. It's the second 3% that is discretionary.   



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Msg ID: 2766690 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-0     
Author:Maverick
2/28/2023 12:38:35 PM

Reply to: 2766660

No that is not correct. Last stakeholder call or tow DM specifically said what I relayed. It is certainly not going to be up to 6%. Infact, as long as I can remember it's only been 3% when it used to be managed well, before bankruptc.



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Msg ID: 2766835 PHI Health gets 3% match, up to 6% +0/-0     
Author:Look at your paystub
3/1/2023 6:11:48 PM

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Maybe you're in the gulf and it's different, but us HAA guys are getting 3% match bare minimum. Look at your stub, amigo.



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Msg ID: 2766543 Anyone with a sign on bonus +9/-0     
Author:Avoid
2/27/2023 7:48:35 AM

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Suggs is turning in his grave. I guess the gutters of Nola are now empty.


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Msg ID: 2766546 Anyone with a sign on bonus +2/-1     
Author:who cares about suggs
2/27/2023 8:15:57 AM

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Big Al made it a good company. Too bad it didn't last but PHI ain't done yet.



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Msg ID: 2766603 Anyone with a sign on bonus (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Whay's wrong with the gutters of nola?
2/27/2023 3:18:27 PM

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Msg ID: 2766696 Anyone with a sign on bonus +1/-0     
Author:Actually
2/28/2023 1:00:35 PM

Reply to: 2766543

Suggs is laughing at you all from hell.

Even with a pilot shortage PHI pilots are getting paid significantly less than Bristow/Era, only 3% 401k, expensive health benefits, trying to force training contracts all while living in a single wide trailer in Houma... the kind of things you'd expect when Suggs knew supply > demand. Now the market has reversed and you chumps still show up for scraps.



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Msg ID: 2767751 Anyone with a sign on bonus +0/-0     
Author:Just
3/10/2023 7:14:44 PM

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think what it was like in Sugg's day.  Think things are awkward now?!?!



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Msg ID: 2766545 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +3/-1     
Author:A Non E. Mouse
2/27/2023 7:58:13 AM

Reply to: 2766536

Better question to ask is, why is there high turnover and why do they have to pay extra to get people to come and work there. 



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Msg ID: 2766547 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-2     
Author:not necessarily high turnover
2/27/2023 8:19:30 AM

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there isn't an operator out there scrambling to find help. they certainly aren't the only ones paying bonuses. AMC pays 25k to any employee that brings a pilot on to a base. you born yesterday bro.



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Msg ID: 2766549 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +9/-0     
Author:I wanna see a mechanic sign on bonus
2/27/2023 8:25:41 AM

Reply to: 2766547

But mechanics get more at the Nissan dealership. Place is airconditioned and 8-5, m-f. Can even be home to raise a family.

Why would anyone get in aviation to wrench is beyond me.



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Msg ID: 2766621 Definite sign of a toxic work environment  +3/-0     
Author:Genexer
2/27/2023 6:23:15 PM

Reply to: 2766547

No doubt the companies paying large sign-on bonuses are the ones that have a large turnover. Perhaps investing more in their current employees by increasing salaries, upgrading housing, increase 401k...etc. May reduce turnover rates, increase morale, and attract pilots wanting the same. Start showing loyalty to their current personnel busting their behinds to safely generate revenue... 



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Msg ID: 2766625 Definite sign of a toxic work environment  +2/-0     
Author:Maverick
2/27/2023 7:34:19 PM

Reply to: 2766621

That sounds like a great idea and would no doubt work, however, they don't care to do that. Not one manager will call and talk to you and ask why you are leaving and what they can do to keep you. 



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Msg ID: 2766565 Was that something its "union" negotiated? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
2/27/2023 10:20:06 AM

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Msg ID: 2766612 Was that something its "union" negotiated? +0/-0     
Author:do you know what a bonus is bro
2/27/2023 4:16:09 PM

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it's extra pay at the descretion of the bonuser



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Msg ID: 2766626 Was that something its "union" negotiated? +0/-0     
Author:Maverick
2/27/2023 7:35:23 PM

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PHI's Union is essentially idle. 



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Msg ID: 2766978 Was that something its "union" negotiated? +0/-0     
Author:PHI Guy
3/2/2023 9:00:45 PM

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The union can't negotiate anything without 50% pilot membership. I think they are at 30% now.



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Msg ID: 2766982 Are you counting the Careflite pilots?? Number can be real confusing when (NT) +0/-0     
Author:union annexes different class/crafts!
3/2/2023 9:18:14 PM

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Msg ID: 2766569 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +1/-0     
Author:rumored rumor
2/27/2023 11:07:41 AM

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paid out over 3 years.



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Msg ID: 2766590 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +5/-0     
Author:Class A airspace
2/27/2023 1:54:52 PM

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Catch is....good luck getting a raise in the future. Also have fun with that sorry of an excuse 401k plan. a Walmart truck drivers have better pay and benefits . 



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Msg ID: 2766628 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-0     
Author:Maverick
2/27/2023 7:42:31 PM

Reply to: 2766590

Correct. I don't recall a raise last year. As for the 401. It is now "Discretionary" and is based on the financial performance of the company. If the financial goals are not met you get nothing. If the goals are met then it is possible to be paid up to the 3% so long as you are putting in your part. Last time it was paid out I only got a little over 2k and I was putting in 12%. We got zero this time and it will likely be the same next time. Good news is though you can make a killing on over-time and emergency operations bonuses. 



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Msg ID: 2766648 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +4/-0     
Author:Class A airspace
2/27/2023 10:00:10 PM

Reply to: 2766628

"Discretionary" match is a huge red flag ! Any company with that practice should send you packing ASAP!!

huge reason why I left that pile of crap company . 



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Msg ID: 2766717 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +2/-0     
Author:Check your stub
2/28/2023 4:04:14 PM

Reply to: 2766628

Employer match is 50% up to 6% and the additional 50% is discretionary match subject to company performance. You should have an employer contribution each pay check and a lump sum if discretionary targets met



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Msg ID: 2766763 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-0     
Author:OPM
2/28/2023 9:48:26 PM

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63$ on stub. That's the way to retire.



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Msg ID: 2766627 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +4/-0     
Author:Maverick
2/27/2023 7:36:25 PM

Reply to: 2766569

If a sign on bonus is paid out over any period the. It is not a sign on bonus but a retention bonus.



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Msg ID: 2766665 PHI $50k sign-on bonus +0/-0     
Author:Just the facts
2/28/2023 9:45:11 AM

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Excellent point!


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