Msg ID:
2766101 |
Medical crew checklist reading +4/-19
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Author:Silent professional
2/22/2023 8:26:04 PM
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It really is a shame most pilots aren't using the CREW as a crew. My people are proficient and professional at their trade, which includes aircraft crew as well as medical crew.
As an aircraft commander and PIC, all I ask is they obey my word as if it were the word of God. Inside the aircraft that is. Once we are at the base on the ground the Nurse is the boss. I do all the cooking And we eat as a team. |
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Msg ID:
2766108 |
Medical crew checklist reading +18/-1
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Author:Heli pilot
2/22/2023 9:24:30 PM
Reply to: 2766101
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What a completely idiotic post. You are a moron. |
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Msg ID:
2766109 |
You're not very silent..... (NT) +4/-1
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Author:Just sayin'
2/22/2023 9:25:24 PM
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Msg ID:
2766113 |
Medical crew checklist reading +10/-1
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Author:Class A airspace
2/22/2023 11:23:27 PM
Reply to: 2766101
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You know what's great about the airlines?? My FA's don't try to tell me how to fly my airplane. They usually listen a whole lot better than med crews did. Med crews should stick to patient care! |
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Msg ID:
2766114 |
Medical crew checklist reading +3/-8
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Author:OP
2/22/2023 11:25:40 PM
Reply to: 2766113
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You should stick to the airlines, Chief. Crews should read checklists |
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Msg ID:
2766145 |
Medical crew checklist reading +6/-1
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Author:X OCONUS IP
2/23/2023 10:58:26 AM
Reply to: 2766113
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Not to mention, med crew ARE NOT "crew members." was settled by the FAA years ago. If they were, they'd have some say in the "operational control" of the aircraft, be required to follow crew rest requirements, and be subject to safety sensative position drug testing requirements! Just saying..... |
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Msg ID:
2766115 |
Medical crew checklist reading +4/-2
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Author:since they are pretty much
2/22/2023 11:26:35 PM
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passengers, there really isn't much you can even have them do, let alone "obey". |
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Msg ID:
2766146 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-2
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Author:X OCONUS IP
2/23/2023 11:02:47 AM
Reply to: 2766115
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Yep! The FAA has "ALL" legs of a flight with the med crew on board are to be conducted under Pt 135. Hence, they are not crew members, they are passengers. Try making someone sitting in 1st Class, Business Class or Cattle class read the checklist. Better yet, try making a flight attendant do it! |
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Msg ID:
2766147 |
Medical crew checklist reading +2/-3
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Author:OP
2/23/2023 11:20:52 AM
Reply to: 2766146
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Puff your chest out somewhere else OCONUS IP.
The Med CREW likes that I have them read the checklist. We are working on EP post-memory items checklist usage. This is CRM at its finest. ONE MIND ANY WEAPON! |
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Msg ID:
2766153 |
Medical crew checklist reading +10/-0
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Author:FAA Inspector
2/23/2023 12:57:06 PM
Reply to: 2766147
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What happens when they make a mistake? Maybe they get distracted and fail to read something to you, it's a critical item (they all are, that's why it's on the checklist) and someone gets hurt or you damage the aircraft?
The investigation finds out you had a non-qualified person performing YOUR duties....the insurance investigator also discovers you failed to do YOUR job...and the awyers find out...especially the lawyer for the med crew peron you assigned the task they weren't trained or qualified for.
I'd hate to be in your shoes..... |
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Msg ID:
2766157 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-0
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Author:X OCONUS IP
2/23/2023 1:35:53 PM
Reply to: 2766147
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That's "X" OCONUS IP, because I made enough $$ overseas to retire and troll you on JH. Touch a nerve did I Sky "God?" |
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Msg ID:
2766265 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-0
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Author:OP
2/24/2023 10:21:56 AM
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RICH OCONUS IP...I will have you reading my checklist if you ever come around me. |
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Msg ID:
2766118 |
Medical crew checklist reading +3/-1
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Author::-)
2/23/2023 12:18:53 AM
Reply to: 2766101
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Whatever dude. Not the greatest attempt at trolling I've seen here. But not the worst either I guess. |
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Msg ID:
2766121 |
Medical crew checklist reading +8/-1
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Author:annon
2/23/2023 5:50:27 AM
Reply to: 2766118
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The first time you count on the "crew" you will be sorry. |
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Msg ID:
2766148 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-0
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Author:OP
2/23/2023 11:22:37 AM
Reply to: 2766118
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Ok dude get back to the petting zoo where you belong. |
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Msg ID:
2766127 |
Medical crew checklist reading +2/-2
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Author:If
2/23/2023 8:13:14 AM
Reply to: 2766101
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you want a long life and career best get rid of that God comparison. Mortals make mistakes, you too. Listen to everyone as a resource and think, then decide.
God? Really? |
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Msg ID:
2766133 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-1
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Author:Geez Francis......
2/23/2023 9:05:14 AM
Reply to: 2766127
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Never seen Full Metal Jacket???? |
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Msg ID:
2766283 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-0
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Author:Up front
2/24/2023 2:59:27 PM
Reply to: 2766133
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and personally for real. Never watched the movie, moved on when DEROS'd. Don't need fake war and trauma, seen enough. |
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Msg ID:
2766135 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-3
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Author:OP
2/23/2023 9:20:54 AM
Reply to: 2766127
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Hey it's in inside the aircraft only. Outside I told you I'm humble as a jungle cat. I cook all the meals |
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Msg ID:
2766140 |
Medical crew checklist reading +2/-1
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Author:If ya do it right
2/23/2023 10:19:20 AM
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They be cooking for you. |
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Msg ID:
2766155 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-1
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Author:Hooked on phonics …
2/23/2023 1:30:25 PM
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Med crews can read ? |
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Msg ID:
2766284 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-0
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Author:I think
2/24/2023 3:01:37 PM
Reply to: 2766135
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I understand your 'humble' attempt but I still suggest you not compare your authority with that of God; can if you want but you're definitely closing yourself down to input from people who are at least aviation aware. Just disagree with the state of mind you choose to operate within, for your sake and that of others. |
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Msg ID:
2766201 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-2
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Author::-)
2/23/2023 4:27:12 PM
Reply to: 2766101
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The fact that this dude refers to himself as a Aircraft Commander, stated "One Mind Any Weapon", and quotes FMJ leads me to believe he's either:
1.)a troll OR
2.) a former Marine pilot who was lucky to peak as an Aircraft Commander before being s--tcanned out of the squadron OR
3.) a wannabe former Marine pilot
Again...if it's a troll attempt, it's a weak one. If you're actually a prior mil guy (which I doubt), you're r---rded and are making us as a community look bad. Calling yourself an Aircraft Commander makes you look about as cool and professional as an adult who still wears his HS Letterman's Jacket. |
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Msg ID:
2766216 |
Medical crew checklist reading +3/-0
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Author:OP
2/23/2023 5:27:45 PM
Reply to: 2766201
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Letterman jackets are a sign of pride. I see that when you were discharged you accepted being far down from the tip of the spear Whereas I am still an aircraft commander by nature. Hooah! |
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Msg ID:
2766220 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-0
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Author::-)
2/23/2023 5:38:25 PM
Reply to: 2766216
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Ah.trolling. Got it. Have fun I guess. |
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Msg ID:
2766224 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-1
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Author:OP
2/23/2023 6:07:09 PM
Reply to: 2766220
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You want answers? You want the truth? You call me a troll but you want me on this forum, you need me on this forum. The truth is Med crews using checklists while tragic, probably saves lives. |
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Msg ID:
2766251 |
Young pilots - don't have medcrew read your checklist +0/-1
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Author:Anonymous
2/24/2023 6:15:58 AM
Reply to: 2766101
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As stated earlier, there's serious liability in doing that. You were not told to do that during your Indoc and your CP should not be supporting that either. You're risking your own certificate; if something happens and you tell them that was your personal SOP to have them read you the checklist you will still be at fault for a missed step; not them.
It may make for warm fuzzies making them feel part of the crew and them helping you "not miss anything, we're a crew, one-team-one-fight, yada-yada-yada" but don't do it.
During "simulated IMC training" in VMC conditions when returning to base there's nothing wrong with having them "back you up" in reading the IMC procedures or in general if discussing some form of simulated emergency and you want them to read the checklist to you, but in actual operation of the aircraft it's YOUR responsibility.
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Msg ID:
2766266 |
Young pilots - don't have medcrew read your checklist +0/-1
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Author::-)
2/24/2023 10:42:45 AM
Reply to: 2766251
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^What he said with one caveat. When I was in HAA, there was a checklist for pre-takeoff and one for landing in which the medical professionals had a speaking part. But it only concerned stuff like making sure your RA was acknowledged, their seatbelts were secure etc. NOTHING related to actual operation of a system. |
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Msg ID:
2766644 |
Young pilots - don't have medcrew read your checklist +0/-0
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Author:boy you clowns
2/27/2023 8:57:47 PM
Reply to: 2766251
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sure get wrapped around the axle for stupid stuff. serious liability and risking your certificate? pfffft. Get real, scooter.
I think we all understand the operation of the aircraft is the responsibility of the PIC. You dumb dorks should be teaching private ground school. |
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Msg ID:
2767217 |
Young pilots - don't have medcrew read your checklist +0/-0
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Author:The Captain
3/5/2023 8:23:37 PM
Reply to: 2766251
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Very good statement and advice for newbies.
Make the Medcrew feel important. Assign them tasks looking for aircraft obstacles and jack-a-loops, while you handle your job. |
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Msg ID:
2766287 |
Medical crew checklist reading +4/-0
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Author:Medtrans OWNS
2/24/2023 3:11:27 PM
Reply to: 2766101
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passenger checklist reading! Call and RESPONSE, pilot dude. |
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Msg ID:
2767239 |
Medical crew checklist reading +1/-0
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Author:Single pilot
3/5/2023 11:11:30 PM
Reply to: 2766287
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Well dude, obviously you are not a pilot. Single pilot use of the checklist is DO, VERIFY. You are trying to reference two pilot operations where they use a CHALLENGE, RESPONSE.
a med crew will shotgun read the checklist as it means nothing to them. It would be like you reading a protocol to them while they are trying to do something. Not happening. |
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Msg ID:
2766326 |
Medical crew checklist reading +0/-0
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Author:Loser
2/24/2023 9:21:57 PM
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It's idiots like you who are ruining EMS |
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