Gulf or EMS no matter the company it's all slave labor!!

By staying, you've identified yourself as desperate and will be treated accordingly.

 Bunch of whiners.  Just quit and start your own business. 

Read Marx & Engel. Some truth, some no work solutions. Human greed not accounted for but the basic theory behind the capitalist and the laborer is mostly correct. The fix is not. Corporate takeover of all our institutions is what we face but we are not,United enough to demand our share. Thus we continue as is. Same reason you got the shot, afraid to,lose your job and the money your life depends on. Yup, indentured servitude, neo feudalism...whatever you want to call it.

hundred grand for 407 training? doubtful this training contract exists at all. I prefer neo fuedalism lol wut

I can imagine doing more work for less pay. I can also imagine doing more work for more pay, which, by the way, is a better deal.

The person making $100/hr. works just as hard as the one making $50/hr. doing the same job.

somebody might be jealous they had to fly crappy equipment for substandard pay. unions brought the pay way up with Bristow and PHI unions. If wanting and getting better pay and benefits makes me a sissy, I'll take it. 

Pointed out numerous times, training contracts are NOT enforceable. Do you really want to work for a company that has to resort to this type of threat to keep people? PHI EMS will cease to exist in a few years, this is the last ditch "hail mary" attempt to keep it afloat. 

Aside from the fact that if you sign a contract then you should honor your word, a training contract IS enforceable. 

https://pilot-protection-services.aopa.org/news/2022/july/01/pilot-training-contracts

how do you "know about" them bro. since 90% of the new pilots are former piston instructors, somebody is going to sign. you need to make your lies a little more believable. Most likely this training contract thing doesn't even exist.

you said you "know of" a group that turned down job offers

now you suddenly were in the group. huh.

then you say you already work there? so you turned down an upgrade, not an offer. somebody that actually worked there would not make that mistake.

so yes, you are a liar. unlike you, I actually did work there. you do not.

how many years you work at PHI

that job rather than going back to r44 tours

I find it funny that during training... pilots learn that a company can fly them 8 hours in a 14 hour duty day.... they get excited. and eager to work... they work like crazy to build some hours as an insturctor then go off and get that first turbine job....  They fly 5-6 hours a day and then complain they are overworked...   then they go off to HEMS and fly 1-2 hours per day and complain even more that they are overworked and working conditions are crap....  

Thinking they did not fully think about anything other than being able to say they are a pilot.  

Those that are not happy.  quit and go do something else... or as others have said purchase and run your own company and build it so that the pilots you hire will have the life you feel you deserve.... I would bet money that they day you open your company you will run it like every other company out there....  flying pilots as much as possible within the duty day allowed by the FAA.   

Enough of my rant :) 

by somebody that has never done this. where do these clowns come from.

all the pilots that don't like to fly a lot leave the GOM and start their own helicopter companies and they make all their pilots fly a lot and this is totally something that happens in real life and it not just something made up by some weirdo lol 

any of those jobs, it must have been a short discussion. the military civilian part must have been fascinating lol

haven't heard of it

Much more important that you know which jobs you want vs the jobs you don't want

when I finished my commercial rating. yes, at 150 hours, the surprises were over as we talked about all the jobs we couldn't get for another 1500 hours

When a company has to impose a training contract to retain an employee, that is a major red flag. Pilots leaving must be an issue. Steer clear. There must be a toxic work environment. 

As you read the following article, just replace the word "stripper" with "PHI pilot" and you'll have a better understanding of the OP's victim hood.

https://news.yahoo.com/inside-dark-underbelly-york-most-093441502.html

Great topic for a thread. A lot of replies were very salient. Kudos to OP and the sane replies.

To the Marx and Engel guy. Also look at Gramsci. Not groundbreaking, but did advance the ideas of the gentlemen(I use the word facetiously) you mentioned.

I worked for PHI for well over 2 decades and there were many times where I felt like I was working in a sweat shop slave camp but I did what I had to do to put food on the table.

I worked there for three years as a lowly 407 pilot and was treated quite well. lots and lots of jobs that didn't fly much. If you went IFR, it was easy peezy. I started out with Apache production, did it for a year and then it was all gravy. If you flew a lot in the heat at PHI, it was because you chose it. Sweat shop slave camp my ass.

George flying is the easy part try maintaining these egg beaters ! And i make more than what your making now with no risk to my life...

Training bonds have been tried many times before and they have never held up when challenged.  The company can't bond you for training they are required by the FAA to provide you.