| Msg ID: 2764775 |
Maximum Age Limit +0/-0
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| Author:Shadow11
2/10/2023 4:00:23 PM |
Do HAA companies have max age limits for hiring pilots? |
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| Msg ID: 2764785 |
AMC is 70. Should be less. 65 at the oldest and (NT) +2/-3
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| Author:30 at the youngest
2/10/2023 4:23:25 PM Reply to: 2764775 |
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| Msg ID: 2764801 |
The airlines will be up to 70 in a little while. (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:Anonymous
2/10/2023 6:53:21 PM Reply to: 2764785 |
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| Msg ID: 2764809 |
AMC is 70. Should be less. 65 at the oldest and +2/-2
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| Author:Older
2/10/2023 7:23:24 PM Reply to: 2764785 |
Actually it is not legal for any HAA company to set a maximum age limit. As long as you pass the physical you must be allowed to fly. I know that AMC has a CBA that specifies 70 as the limit. As soon as someone challenges that in court it will be gone. |
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| Msg ID: 2764814 |
and yet another example of the union hurting its members (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:based on ZERO research too!
2/10/2023 8:11:33 PM Reply to: 2764809 |
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| Msg ID: 2764873 |
Risk increases with age so I guess it’s actually putting safety above (NT) +1/-1
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| Author:Your old arsss feeling s
2/11/2023 11:53:48 AM Reply to: 2764814 |
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| Msg ID: 2764931 |
^^^^ Moron Alert! ^^^^ +0/-1
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| Author: ^^^^^^^^^
2/11/2023 4:20:52 PM Reply to: 2764873 |
The poster above has just irrationally rationalized proponent's defense! |
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| Msg ID: 2764933 |
If that is true, why are auto insurance rates higer for younger drivers (NT) +3/-1
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| Author:than older drivers?
2/11/2023 4:22:50 PM Reply to: 2764873 |
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| Msg ID: 2765180 |
If that is true, why are auto insurance rates higer for younger drivers +0/-0
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| Author:Experience
2/13/2023 9:59:42 PM Reply to: 2764933 |
generally means better judgement. |
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| Msg ID: 2764872 |
False. Already case law on the books supporting it. Leave legal stuff (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:To the lawyers
2/11/2023 11:52:57 AM Reply to: 2764809 |
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| Msg ID: 2764880 |
cite one or two of the cases then! (NT) +2/-0
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| Author:should be easy considering your response
2/11/2023 11:56:31 AM Reply to: 2764872 |
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| Msg ID: 2764897 |
Not doing your work for you. You are the one who has issue (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:Prove everyone wrong!
2/11/2023 1:16:14 PM Reply to: 2764880 |
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| Msg ID: 2764901 |
you're not going to do my work for me trying to find the case law +1/-0
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| Author:you raised & can't cite. I proved it!
2/11/2023 1:33:43 PM Reply to: 2764897 |
...it for you. I proved you are just BS! The requirement is based on arbitrary criteria clearly making it discrimination. the fact there are two classes of pilot's currently authorized under the union's contract (before cba , after cba) makes it not an age criteria based on safety, but on an arbitrary basis. Hence, clearly age discrimination! and since there isn't any FAA restrictions on age, the arbitrary requirement has no sensible foundation. |
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| Msg ID: 2764903 |
I can also tell you the EEOC is just itching for someone (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:to bring a complaint forward too!
2/11/2023 1:36:13 PM Reply to: 2764901 |
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| Msg ID: 2764911 |
Be that guy then! Scared? Exactly (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:All talk and troll. No truth
2/11/2023 2:07:14 PM Reply to: 2764903 |
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| Msg ID: 2764912 |
Wasn’t it approved by the membership through an uncontested vote? (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:That’s right…membership rules
2/11/2023 2:07:57 PM Reply to: 2764911 |
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| Msg ID: 2764930 |
So now you're suggesting it's for a Union to break the law if +0/-1
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| Author:the member's vote on it? Brilliant!!
2/11/2023 4:12:16 PM Reply to: 2764912 |
So, it's ok for them to vote in other discriminatory measures, such as:
No Caucasian Pilots! No Christian Pilots! No Republican Pilots! No Irish Pilots!
Must be OK if the members voted for it! |
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| Msg ID: 2764940 |
Nope. He’s arguing for safety. Weight and age are a factor (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:Don’t 121 operators have an max age?
2/11/2023 4:55:40 PM Reply to: 2764930 |
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| Msg ID: 2764944 |
DOT and FAA support and approve age restrictions. You have (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:LOST the argument
2/11/2023 5:34:52 PM Reply to: 2764940 |
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| Msg ID: 2764954 |
Not for Part 135 or Part 125. There are no restrictions. +0/-1
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| Author:Same pilots from 121 can then....
2/11/2023 6:50:16 PM Reply to: 2764944 |
go on to fly 135, so BOOM, there goes your arguement!
And, you'd think you're Union for stand up for you (after paying them all those dues)!
If there is a problem with age, then don't discriminate between 70 year olds who were hired before the new contract, and those who were hired afterwards, if you're making the arguement for SAFETY! |
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| Msg ID: 2765006 |
Can’t take you seriously. It’s spelled “your” (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Learn the difference
2/12/2023 11:02:44 AM Reply to: 2764954 |
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| Msg ID: 2765007 |
Must be the Alzheimer’s kicking in at his age (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Proving our point old man
2/12/2023 11:03:29 AM Reply to: 2765006 |
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| Msg ID: 2765014 |
blame Microsoft/Google. they take dictation and type (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:it. brw, typos are not spelling problems
2/12/2023 12:27:41 PM Reply to: 2765006 |
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| Msg ID: 2764989 |
You're not familiar with the concept of standing, are you? (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:someone will have standing though!
2/12/2023 12:36:29 AM Reply to: 2764911 |
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| Msg ID: 2765008 |
Standing with your walker (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:See you everyday
2/12/2023 11:04:10 AM Reply to: 2764989 |
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| Msg ID: 2765652 |
cite one or two of the cases then! +1/-0
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| Author:Old 135 pilot
2/18/2023 12:12:54 AM Reply to: 2764880 |
I was let go when I turned 65 and was told out right by the CP it was for age. I sued, got my job back with back pay. I can give you my lawyers name if you need him. There is no age limit for part 135. |
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| Msg ID: 2764788 |
Maximum Age Limit +3/-0
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| Author:GMR
2/10/2023 4:48:57 PM Reply to: 2764775 |
Nope, as long as your AME signs off your 8500-9 you're good to go. |
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| Msg ID: 2764802 |
as it should be! (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:Anonymous
2/10/2023 6:54:08 PM Reply to: 2764788 |
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| Msg ID: 2764813 |
Maximum Age Limit +4/-0
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| Author:Except
2/10/2023 7:58:02 PM Reply to: 2764775 |
When the nurse/medic crew refuse to fly with...it might be time to retire...not age related. |
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| Msg ID: 2764822 |
can a pilot refuse to fly with a nurse or medic?? (NT) +3/-1
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| Author:lots need to be "retired" too!
2/10/2023 8:48:25 PM Reply to: 2764813 |
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| Msg ID: 2764835 |
can a pilot refuse to fly with a nurse or medic?? +4/-0
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| Author::-)
2/10/2023 10:41:42 PM Reply to: 2764822 |
Yes. Once. |
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| Msg ID: 2765249 |
can a pilot refuse to fly with a nurse or medic?? +0/-0
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| Author:Sure
2/14/2023 7:50:13 PM Reply to: 2764822 |
but best have a real reason. |
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| Msg ID: 2765284 |
Is "because I'm not comfortable flying with them" (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:a real reason?
2/15/2023 11:08:27 AM Reply to: 2765249 |
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| Msg ID: 2765297 |
Is "because I'm not comfortable flying with them" +0/-0
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| Author:try it
2/15/2023 11:56:37 AM Reply to: 2765284 |
sees what happens lol |
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| Msg ID: 2765653 |
Weight limit? +0/-0
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| Author:Ex HAA pilot and happy to be at Walmart
2/18/2023 12:20:18 AM Reply to: 2765249 |
Yeah, like so fat the helicopter won't fly. Ridiculous. They advertise a max for pilots but medics and nurses are pigs and over gross the aircraft. Med crews are why I quit. |
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