| Msg ID: 2763171 |
Kobe (NT) +0/-5
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| Author:Today In History
1/26/2023 7:17:16 AM |
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| Msg ID: 2763182 |
Kobe +0/-3
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| Author:Challenger
1/26/2023 8:52:35 AM Reply to: 2763171 |
1986 go at throttle up |
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| Msg ID: 2763243 |
Kobe +10/-1
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| Author:Never
1/26/2023 4:57:38 PM Reply to: 2763171 |
should've happened. Inept PIC not the A/C!!! RIP Pax!!!! |
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| Msg ID: 2763262 |
Kobe +4/-3
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| Author:AGREE
1/26/2023 7:30:52 PM Reply to: 2763249 |
POOOOR PILOT SKILLS AND DECISION MAKING...Don't care what experience he had...it went out the door when he made numerous bad decisions on that flight |
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| Msg ID: 2763264 |
Kobe +0/-4
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| Author:it's almost like some of
1/26/2023 8:31:47 PM Reply to: 2763262 |
you dumb jugheads think everybody else thought the pilot did a wonderful job |
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| Msg ID: 2763319 |
Kobe +1/-4
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| Author:what have you done
1/27/2023 12:33:37 PM Reply to: 2763262 |
So while you point the finger at something someone else has done... what have you done to better the industry and safety for all?
I assume your perfect and dont make any mistakes.... |
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| Msg ID: 2763446 |
Kobe +0/-0
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| Author:Can
1/28/2023 5:13:13 PM Reply to: 2763243 |
happen to anyone, just don't forget that. Some more prone than others, but no one is exempt. |
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| Msg ID: 2763462 |
Kobe +1/-0
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| Author:It happened to me
1/28/2023 9:51:57 PM Reply to: 2763446 |
was lucky as I was in a 206 with just the bare minimum instruments. He had everything needed for IFR and still managed to screw it up. |
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| Msg ID: 2763493 |
It ain't complicated +1/-2
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| Author:Just A Bystander
1/29/2023 9:48:35 AM Reply to: 2763171 |
Very simply...VERY SIMPLY...Ari was flying into rising terrain with an already-low ceiling: Recipe for trouble. He *SHOULD* have slowed down, but kept bombing along at...what...140 kts or something? So it's no surprise that he (ahem) inadvertently punched into that cloud, and then the unstabilized helicopter did what helicopters do when the "pilot" can't see out the windows: It rolled over onto its back and crashed. We can try to sugar-coat it, but Ari messed up, big time and got himself killed. Oh yeah, and some other unfortunate souls who happened to be along with him. |
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| Msg ID: 2763597 |
It ain't complicated +0/-0
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| Author:I doubt it was unstabilized
1/30/2023 3:46:20 PM Reply to: 2763493 |
it was stabilized but he either turned the force trim off or used the release on the cyclic. If he had kept his hands off the controls, they would probably all be alive today. |
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| Msg ID: 2763606 |
It ain't complicated +0/-0
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| Author:Rip V. Winkle
1/30/2023 6:30:17 PM Reply to: 2763597 |
Hadn't read where he went inverted !!! Conventional wisdom, which he lacked, said he flew IFR into rising terrain. I personally think he thought he was somewhere else. We have all been in similar predicaments. |
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| Msg ID: 2763607 |
It ain't complicated +0/-0
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| Author:you don't know
1/30/2023 6:38:45 PM Reply to: 2763606 |
what is meant by conventional wisdom bro. you're in a predicament as you wake up there hose |
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| Msg ID: 2763609 |
It ain't complicated +1/-0
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| Author:my name not hose but hose my fren
1/30/2023 6:46:06 PM Reply to: 2763607 |
I don't think anybody knows exactly what the aircraft attitude was on the decent other than it was definitely nose down on impact. |
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| Msg ID: 2763616 |
It ain't complicated +0/-0
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| Author:nobody said it was complicated
1/30/2023 7:06:22 PM Reply to: 2763609 |
nobody tried to sugar coat it. no, it wasn't an unstabilized helicopter but you're right about the pilot getting killed |
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