Msg ID:
2762739 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +1/-14
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Author:Nurse
1/22/2023 11:20:47 PM
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just wanted to ask if a full preflight is required if, for example, the aircraft hasn't been flown since our last shift. Is a full preflight check still necessary when we come back on shift? |
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Msg ID:
2762745 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-1
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Author:Fat man
1/22/2023 11:33:07 PM
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Define preflight please |
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Msg ID:
2762746 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +9/-4
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Author:Pilot
1/22/2023 11:35:03 PM
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How about you leave it to the professional pilot to determine if that is required or not... |
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Msg ID:
2762761 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +1/-1
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Author:So if you ever find a professional
1/23/2023 8:18:06 AM
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pilot, ask them. |
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Msg ID:
2762747 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +4/-2
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Author:Short answer
1/22/2023 11:44:56 PM
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yes |
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Msg ID:
2762749 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +6/-1
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Author:Rotonut
1/22/2023 11:45:51 PM
Reply to: 2762739
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I don't tell a nurse how to start an IV. That said, if I see blood leaking, after the nurse leaves, then I will bring it to their attention.
You could just politely ask. It might save the pilot's life. After all, we are all human and daily stress hits us without knowing it. I did a year of human factors classes. So, yes, do bring it to their attention politely or find out what Standard operating procedures (SOP) are. I personally always do a full preflight regardless, even if someone completed it just before me.
I have included a topical accident report. The first pilot said it was ok to go, and the second pilot seems to have just accepted the previous pilot's subjective decision. Guess who died?
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/Documents/2020-CEN19FA072-BMG-abstract.pdf |
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Msg ID:
2762753 |
That was due to not checking the weather. (NT) +2/-1
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Author:n/t
1/23/2023 12:53:59 AM
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Msg ID:
2762978 |
Checking wx is part of the preflight +0/-2
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Author:Do I need to cite FARs??
1/25/2023 1:53:38 AM
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The oncoming pilot assumed that the previous pilot's judgment call was correct, and the fact that he had started the helicopter. He may have been correct, but wx changes. What's good 10 minutes ago may not be good now. |
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Msg ID:
2762751 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +3/-1
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Author::-)
1/23/2023 12:19:16 AM
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Personal technique. 24 hours after my preflight, whether I or someone else few.it or not, I preflight it again. That's MY technique
. YMMV. Check your company's FOM. |
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Msg ID:
2762762 |
EMS Pilot Preflight. Thoughts? +4/-2
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Author:Lank
1/23/2023 8:38:26 AM
Reply to: 2762739
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For HAA a preflight is required at the beginning of each 12 hour shift and a post flight is required atrer each flight. The post flight is mostly also your preflight for the next flight less the walk around. |
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Msg ID:
2762763 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-1
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Author:Throat Goat
1/23/2023 9:01:02 AM
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Are like any of you in the pool ? |
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Msg ID:
2762784 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-1
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Author:Throat Goat
1/23/2023 11:36:27 AM
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Im in the pilot pool so I go to different bases, hard to really get to know people, but I have been using the sniffies app. and met some great people on my off duty time. it might be worth a try. |
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Msg ID:
2762788 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-1
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Author:Expedite
1/23/2023 12:39:05 PM
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FAA requires a walk around before first flight of day flight, GOM requires a preflight when you come on shift. I have taking a flight when ariving at the base and just do a walk around if I checked it earlier that week. Then when I get to the hospital I preflight when you guys go inside. |
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Msg ID:
2762791 |
I have the nurse do the preflight, (NT) +4/-0
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Author:they know everything.
1/23/2023 12:53:57 PM
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Msg ID:
2762792 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-1
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Author:cheap
1/23/2023 1:07:29 PM
Reply to: 2762739
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You might live a little longer if you do a good preflight. I never trusted another pilots preflight and always checked over whatever the mechanic was working on.You never know what you will find.YMMV. |
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Msg ID:
2762794 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +2/-1
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Author:I do a part 121 preflight
1/23/2023 1:44:50 PM
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a walk around |
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Msg ID:
2762985 |
You got it wrong +0/-1
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Author:Real part 121 preflight
1/25/2023 2:38:26 AM
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Get the other guy to do the walk-around, bc you are too busy dealing with the ground crew complaining |
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Msg ID:
2782679 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-0
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Author:Anitanixon
5/13/2023 7:43:54 AM
Reply to: 2762792
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If you perform a proper preflight, you might live a little while longer. I never trusted another pilot's preflight and constantly double-checked what the mechanic was doing.What you will uncover is always a mystery.
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Msg ID:
2803941 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-0
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Author:Timothy S. Heer
1/24/2024 10:29:45 PM
Reply to: 2782679
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Preflight EMS Pilot +0/-1 Fat Man 1:13:07 PM on 1/22/2023 Preflight EMS Pilot +9/-4 Pilot 1:15.03 PM on 1/22/2023 +1/-1 EMS Pilot Preflight Consequently, if you ever locate a qualified 8:18:06 AM on 1/23/2023
Preflight EMS Pilot +4/-2 Brief response 1:14:56 PM on 1/22/2023 Preflight EMS Pilot +6/-1 Rotonut 1:15:51 PM on 1/22/2023 That resulted from neglecting to check the weather. (NT) +2/-1 n/t 1:23:59 AM on 1/23/2023 As part of the preflight +0/-2, checking the weather Should I cite the FARs? 1/25/2023 1:53:38 A.M. Preflight EMS Pilot +3/-1 :-) 1:19:16 AM on 1/23/2023 Preflight of an EMS Pilot +3/-1 Anonymous 1:21,50 AM on 1/23/2023 Preflight of EMS Pilot. Ideas? +4/-2 Lank 8:38:26 AM on 1/23/2023 Preflight EMS Pilot +0/-1 Throat Goat 1:12:02 AM on 1/23/2023 Preflight EMS Pilot +0/-1 Throat Goat 1:16:27 AM on 1/23/2023 Preflight EMS Pilot +0/-1 |
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Msg ID:
2762798 |
EMS Pilot Preflight (NT) +0/-1
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Author:No
1/23/2023 2:09:50 PM
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Msg ID:
2762799 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +5/-2
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Author:Utility flyer
1/23/2023 3:01:12 PM
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No. If the machine is secure there's no reason to preflight. Besides it the mechanics job to do daily checks.
But then again I'm old an just don't care. If it's starts I'll fly. Thumbs down if you'd like. I also don't care about that |
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Msg ID:
2762914 |
You want to retire from after 40 years minimizing maintenance surprises? +0/-1
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Author:olderendirt
1/24/2023 12:47:49 PM
Reply to: 2762799
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You want to retire from after 40 years minimizing maintenance surprises? Preflight every aircraft.
After that, carefully examine the aircraft as you walk up and then walk around. Your mechnic will appreciate it.
Birds love to nest in various openings, if nothing else. |
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Msg ID:
2762826 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-2
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Author:STL206
1/23/2023 8:42:46 PM
Reply to: 2762739
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Depends. What does the RFM for your airframe require? Many require certain things be checked before the first flight of the day with no reference to the last time the aircraft was flown. If you don't comply with the RFM you can be violated by the FAA(long shot, but if they discover it they will.) What does your GOM require? If you are required to preflight at the beginning of every shift and you don't, then you could be discipined accordingly. |
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Msg ID:
2762828 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-1
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Author:STL206
1/23/2023 8:51:12 PM
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Having said that, I agree with Utiility Flyer. If it flew in, it'll fly out. |
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Msg ID:
2762830 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +2/-2
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Author:WHERE'S YOUR MECH.
1/23/2023 8:54:16 PM
Reply to: 2762828
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ISN'T That his/her job to do that daily as well? just sayin |
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Msg ID:
2762829 |
STAY IN YOUR LANE NURSE +0/-1
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Author:I am sure you guys do
1/23/2023 8:52:38 PM
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a thorough drug count if you don't fly or check on your equip....NOT...been to bases where if the aircraft hasn't flown crews don't do anything....STAY IN YOUR LANE BUDDY....AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS |
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Msg ID:
2762831 |
STAY IN YOUR LANE NURSE +0/-2
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Author:if the LOGBOOK is signed off
1/23/2023 8:56:23 PM
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and daily not done then it is Fraud..... |
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Msg ID:
2762838 |
STAY IN YOUR LANE NURSE +0/-1
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Author:and if you
1/23/2023 10:39:23 PM
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go outside the lines on a hospital helipad, the FAA will show up and cite you for careless and reckless for a runway incursion. btw, no sign off in my logbook, just times and landings. |
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Msg ID:
2762979 |
wow, you sound like a team player +0/-1
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Author:Sarcastic sid
1/25/2023 1:56:24 AM
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I guess you get "hen-pecked" by nurses all the time, even by the male ones! |
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Msg ID:
2763253 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-0
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Author:oh boy
1/26/2023 5:55:48 PM
Reply to: 2762826
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another dumb ranger feels the need to chime in with his ranger wisdom |
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Msg ID:
2763618 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-0
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Author:Pilots
1/30/2023 7:14:06 PM
Reply to: 2762739
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If you answered this question, you:
1. SOMEHOW don't realize this is a bait post by a troll
2. If by some unknown world this ISN'T a troll bait, and you answered like a good boy, the rest of us will continue to hope that a step on your leadership climbing ladder brakes and you fall back to the floor where you should be.
3. Are hoping to get more than just a backrub from this "nurse"
4. Should maybe leave this industry and go to one where your co-workers enjoy getting thrown under the bus instead of having their back
5. Deserve a gold star |
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Msg ID:
2765108 |
EMS Pilot Preflight +0/-0
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Author:Lesternixon
2/13/2023 9:56:23 AM
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The rest of us will continue to hope that a step on your leadership climbing ladder breaks and you fall back to the floor where you should be if by some unknown world this ISN'T a troll bait and you responded like a good boy. |
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Msg ID:
2790807 |
EMS +0/-0
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Author:emssuithub
8/15/2023 4:00:48 AM
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If by some unknown chance this ISN'T a troll bait and you reacted like a nice boy, the rest of us will continue to wish that a step of your leadership rising ladder breaks and you fall back to the bottom where you should be
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Msg ID:
2790808 |
ems +0/-0
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Author:emssuithub
8/15/2023 4:03:40 AM
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If by some unknown chance this ISN'T a troll bait and you reacted like a nice boy, the rest of us will continue to wish that a step of your leadership rising ladder breaks and you fall back to the bottom where you should be<a href="emssuithubofficials@gmail.com">.</a> |
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