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Msg ID: 2759329 Sick days +0/-6     
Author:Anonymous
1/18/2023 10:03:16 AM

Does any EMS company give a bonus/stipend/pat on the back...for not using sick days? Or am I just a sucker for not burning up 6 sick days a year.



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Msg ID: 2759332 Sick days (NT) +8/-3     
Author:Just a sucker
1/18/2023 10:18:46 AM

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Msg ID: 2759337 Sick days (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Yup
1/18/2023 10:52:36 AM

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Msg ID: 2759344 Sick days +6/-2     
Author:My co worker
1/18/2023 11:46:00 AM

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He called out sick end of year to go to Mexico for six days. smoke em if you got em. 



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Msg ID: 2759353 Sick days +2/-1     
Author:probably didn’t happen
1/18/2023 12:31:46 PM

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anything over two or three in a row requires doctors note



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Msg ID: 2759354 Sick days +3/-0     
Author:LOL
1/18/2023 12:34:52 PM

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What a joke of an industry. Doctors note 🤣



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Msg ID: 2759355 Sick days +5/-1     
Author:pretty common
1/18/2023 12:37:31 PM

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at all jobs. duh like this only happens in helicopters 



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Msg ID: 2759358 Sick days +6/-1     
Author::-)
1/18/2023 12:46:36 PM

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Never work or fly sick. Unless there's a way to get paid for it,find a way to use every bit of sick days you have. Can't believe there are employers that require notes from your provider. I used to work in HEMS, and I can't remember any policy that required such a note. Wow. That's stupid.


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Msg ID: 2759360 Pilots have a duty to refuse to fly if they have any doubt as to their  +2/-1     
Author:olderendirt
1/18/2023 12:54:10 PM

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Pilots have a duty to refuse to fly if they have any doubt as to their being able to safely complete it because of a health issue of any sort. Requiring a note attesting to your illness discourages pilots from best safety practice.

If and when an incident, accident happens and the pilot was sick and 'discouraged' from sick days in any way, lawsuits will fly- and be successful.



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Msg ID: 2759361 P.S. An operator that discourages sick days is the sort of operator that  +2/-0     
Author:olderendirt
1/18/2023 12:56:29 PM

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P.S. An operator that discourages sick days is the sort of operator that will encourage you top fly with mechanical issues (write'm up when you get to the base or when the weather is down) and/or "push" weather.



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Msg ID: 2759362 P.S. An operator that discourages sick days is the sort of operator that  +6/-0     
Author:AMC discourages
1/18/2023 1:11:52 PM

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AMC discourages you taking sick days. If you take over three just for a common cold you have to go on short-term disability. So you got people taking two then coming to work sick just because they don't want to be forced into short term disability for a cold. It's an awful policy


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Msg ID: 2759367 P.S. An operator that discourages sick days is the sort of operator that  +2/-1     
Author:Not true...
1/18/2023 1:31:40 PM

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To go on short term disability, you have to be out for a minimum of two weeks, which for most EMS pilots is one week of work (plus your week off). In that case, you have to take seven sick days, or if you don't have the sick time accrued, vacation days. To address the OP's issue, at AMC we can accrue up to 10 sick days before it no longer accrues. I take three so I can always have seven left to have the required sick time to go on short term disability without using my vacation. If you stay at 10 sick days, you are kind of screwing someone else out of some OT as well as time off for yourself. Enjoy and do what is best for you.



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Msg ID: 2759374 P.S. An operator that discourages sick days is the sort of operator that  +1/-1     
Author:Wrong
1/18/2023 1:49:22 PM

Reply to: 2759367
If you take more than 3 sick days short term kicks in automatically. Happened to me.


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Msg ID: 2759383 Not "automatically". You are applying for it after 3 days +1/-0     
Author:it doesn't kick in till you go 10 days
1/18/2023 3:06:27 PM

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past your initial filing for it.  That's why the company has you do it, they are helping you to collect it as soon as possible if your sick time extends out.   You don't actually go on STD after 3 days!

Bet that happened to you too!



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Msg ID: 2759375 Bullcrap!! No they don't!!  +0/-1     
Author:they discourage you from calling....
1/18/2023 1:55:27 PM

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...out sick leaving the base out-of-service at the last minute so you can go boating with the family. There are some who abuse it because they are unethical hypocrites and unprofessional schiesters


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Msg ID: 2759376 Bullcrap!! No they don't!!  +2/-2     
Author:Wrong again
1/18/2023 2:02:18 PM

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They do discourage you from calling out sick. If you go over 3 days you have to have a doctor's note to come back and are put on short term. Now I have to pay for a doctor's visit just to get a note. And if my deductible isn't met yet then I could be paying 100 plus dollars just for a note. I would say that is a pretty big deterrent from calling out sick when you probably should.


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Msg ID: 2759377 Bullcrap!! No they don't!!  +1/-1     
Author:Also
1/18/2023 2:06:54 PM

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If you go on short term you can't collect ACCRA pay. The only way to make up for it is to cash out more that 12hrs a day from your vacation bank. Short term sucks and I will avoid it at all costs.


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Msg ID: 2759382 Also, well yeah! You aren't WORKING! +0/-0     
Author:There is an alternative....
1/18/2023 3:03:49 PM

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... pay for extra insurance yourself!



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Msg ID: 2759445 Also, well yeah! You aren't WORKING! +0/-0     
Author:Class A airspace
1/19/2023 10:09:46 AM

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They can't afford extra insurance, on Hems salary. 



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Msg ID: 2762583 Sell some of your man toys if you are concerned! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Median national income is like $32,000
1/20/2023 10:06:29 PM

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Msg ID: 2759381 If you are out for 3 days, it is appropriate to have a doctor's note! +0/-1     
Author:Also, you start short term disability...
1/18/2023 3:01:51 PM

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that quickly because if you don't and are LEGITIMATELY sick, waiting until the 10th day to file a claim will cause you to MISS a week of STD payments.   They are having you start the claim process to EXPIDITE you being covered by STD!   Otherwise, there will be a gap in your income.

 

Remember STD is an insurance backup, not a company payroll plan to pay you for not working!   They are actually helping you despite the fact you are too naieve to understand it!

 

Nothing discourages you from taking sick time, except your twisted perception of it!



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Msg ID: 2759390 Sick days and doctors note +1/-0     
Author:Beat the game
1/18/2023 4:16:28 PM

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I got the doctor note e-mail ONCE. I sent back an e-mail attaching my appoint confirmation in 3 weeks then didn’t answer my phone. Just texted back ‘waiting on doctor appointment’

Of course the machine sat for lack of coverage. Boss sent another e-mail 12 days in saying doctor note requirement was cancelled if I was well please return to work.


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Msg ID: 2759569 PHI Policy +0/-0     
Author:Is bad
1/20/2023 10:55:07 AM

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PHI did away with sick time and made it Emergency Medical Leave. (EML) I forget the yearly accrual, but it maxes out at 560 hours (7 weeks @ 80hrs a week) Downsides: You can't use it until you've been with the company for 4 years, and have already taken 40 hours of PTO for the issue. I.e. If you get the flu you need to take 40 hours of PTO first, then you can start using your EML time. But you know, dont come to work sick! Stay home, protect your fellow employees and burn all your limited vacation time!


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