Msg ID:
2759194 |
H145 +1/-1
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Author:Utility work
1/17/2023 11:53:13 AM
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Who out there uses the H145 in the powerline business? |
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Msg ID:
2759196 |
H145 +2/-2
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Author:No one
1/17/2023 11:56:57 AM
Reply to: 2759194
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Because it's expensive as F and pointless. I think SDG&E had something similar thst helistream or something was apart of. No clue what happened with that. Edison had some 135s they tried it with. Some are using 429 now. Most is pointless as engine failure accidents conducting HEC work are virtually non existent. |
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Msg ID:
2759197 |
H145 +0/-10
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Author:uh
1/17/2023 12:05:29 PM
Reply to: 2759196
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there is a lot more to utility work that HEC bro. you don't fly two engines for redundancy so much as payload. |
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Msg ID:
2759200 |
H145 +2/-4
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Author:Bro
1/17/2023 12:15:44 PM
Reply to: 2759197
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= 80's term go back to your mullet trailer park ya rube!!! SMH! |
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Msg ID:
2759201 |
H145 +2/-1
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Author:Lol
1/17/2023 12:16:58 PM
Reply to: 2759197
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If you think you fly 2 engines for payload in anything utility besides a heavy then you don't fly utility. name a light twin out there used for utility that can sling something that isn't a tonka toy....I'll wait. anything else the kmax is the way. |
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Msg ID:
2759210 |
H145 +0/-6
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Author:ScCal
1/17/2023 12:38:11 PM
Reply to: 2759201
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2 engines and still 1 single point of failure in a single transmission. Makes a lot of sense 😳 |
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Msg ID:
2759213 |
H145 +9/-2
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Author:but what is more likely to fail
1/17/2023 12:43:26 PM
Reply to: 2759210
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the engine. you really can't argue the fact that you keep flying with a twin and and in a single you don't. to argue against the redundancy of two engines is to not comprehend reality. |
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Msg ID:
2759242 |
H145 +0/-5
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Author:WirePapa
1/17/2023 3:58:36 PM
Reply to: 2759213
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Someone please tell me what airframe out there has true OEI fly away capabilities in an OGE hover at max gross weight. As a reminder, in the utility world we hover a lot and I'm not sure there is a twin out there that can pull itself out of an OGE hover on one engine at sea level on a cool day never mind at high DA's. In the utility world excellent maintenance, and well trained and supported crews will out perform anything a twin might do for you in an emergency. Twin engines = bigger smoking whole. IMHO. |
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Msg ID:
2759243 |
H145 +3/-2
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Author:cool story bro
1/17/2023 4:06:50 PM
Reply to: 2759242
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Don't give me any garbage about maintenance and "well trained and supported crews" etc. In a single you're going into the rocks, trees, wires or whatever is directly below you and it's going to hurt. You may not always fly away in a twin but you will fly. |
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Msg ID:
2759245 |
H145 +4/-0
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Author:for absolute certainty
1/17/2023 4:44:22 PM
Reply to: 2759242
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I know what won't fly away and is going straight down at any weight no matter how well you and your crew are trained: a single. |
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Msg ID:
2759255 |
H145 +2/-1
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Author:Honest Question
1/17/2023 5:53:45 PM
Reply to: 2759242
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Why would you be anywhere near the max gross limit of a light twin while doing powerline work, of course other than a belly hooked external load? Not being a smart ***, just don't know much about what you do.
That being said, on a cool day at sea level an AW109S at max gross would do fly away from an OGE hover of a few hundred feet OEI without exceeding any limits. Granted it would be a horrible airframe for utility work but that wasn't a stipulation in the question. |
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Msg ID:
2759290 |
H145 +1/-1
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Author:true
1/17/2023 8:07:03 PM
Reply to: 2759255
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a 109 would do that |
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Msg ID:
2759321 |
H145 +1/-1
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Author:S76B
1/18/2023 7:22:55 AM
Reply to: 2759242
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will do that! |
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Msg ID:
2762573 |
H145 +0/-0
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Author:Generally
1/20/2023 8:25:16 PM
Reply to: 2759321
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agree but it really depends on pilot reaction to accel pitch and power management. |
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Msg ID:
2763209 |
H145 +0/-0
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Author:Lop Sided Sid
1/26/2023 2:35:45 PM
Reply to: 2759321
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But it can't pass a gas station |
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Msg ID:
2759312 |
H145 +0/-0
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Author:Old as power liner
1/18/2023 12:35:31 AM
Reply to: 2759194
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Southern Cal Edison tried it but it wasn’t very useful or practical. Some of that was at the time most of their pilots were low time long liners. PG&E hints at it enough that PJ Helicopters bought a few 429’s but mostly the 407 and 500 series are preferred for the lighter loads and HEC. Cost per hour is still the big factor.
Truth is HEC is pretty low on the danger scale as lineman stuff goes. More die each year from other work then all HEC deaths ever combined. |
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Msg ID:
2762692 |
H145 +0/-0
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Author:Super
1/22/2023 5:35:11 PM
Reply to: 2759194
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BO105 vomit comet, unless there are five blades. |
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