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Msg ID: 2759152  +0/-2     
Author:How old is too old
1/16/2023 8:43:55 PM

Chime in.

 

Are any airframes too old? should we fly things into perpetuity?



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Msg ID: 2759155 how old are you? like, seven?? +1/-4     
Author:Anonymous
1/16/2023 9:47:58 PM

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no offense but you need to know, that's like a rookie know-nothing question. as long as the aircraft is maintained in accordance with manufacturer's instructions and faa regulations, it will fly and fly safely.

you worry about not pulling stupid pilot tricks; but don't worry about like, at some magic moment in history or aircraft total time, the metal is like, gonna give up and de-crystallize. geeze.

what are they teaching you people nowadays?



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Msg ID: 2759164 how old are you? like, seven?? +0/-1     
Author:Wait
1/16/2023 11:05:33 PM

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I thought we didn't trust the government?



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Msg ID: 2759175 how old are you? like, seven?? +1/-0     
Author:Genexer
1/17/2023 7:34:17 AM

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No offense? Nice post Richard Cranium. 

At some point it will cost more to keep the aircraft airworthy than it will generate in revenue. Law of diminishing returns. 



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Msg ID: 2759162  +3/-0     
Author:Mississippi
1/16/2023 10:55:50 PM

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Aren't Bell 47's still flying? How old are they?



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Msg ID: 2759165 Too old +2/-1     
Author:Answers given
1/16/2023 11:16:46 PM

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Correctly maintained machines can fly for many decades. Now then, once parts become too expensive or manufactures add too many maintenance requirements for a company to make money then the machine is not worth continuing with.
Most operators don’t have the luxury of unlimited money like the US government to buy new aircraft whenever the perceived need arises.
My observation of some pilots around me is they are used to new machines every few years as that is what they were used to in the military.

For the owners it’s all cost vs. gain and pilot or crew desires come in far down the list.


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Msg ID: 2759167 Too old +1/-1     
Author:OP
1/16/2023 11:34:46 PM

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Great comment. Instructive.

 

you said "many decades". 5-6-7? it's a conversation thread to stir thought. Some posters like the guy above get angry. 



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Msg ID: 2759169 Too old +4/-0     
Author:haha, yeah, the military gets
1/17/2023 12:27:47 AM

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new machines every few years.  On what planet?

The next time you see an Army helicopter look at the tail number.  The first two digits are the fiscal year funding for that airframe.  Check it out.  UH-1's (US Army) were flown into the 21st century, the last one rolled off the line in 1976.  Most were produced between 1962 and 1972.



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Msg ID: 2759172 Too old +1/-1     
Author:It
1/17/2023 6:45:37 AM

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depends on Mfg. Is the A/F a LLP or On Condition. 



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Msg ID: 2762574  +0/-0     
Author:Depends
1/20/2023 8:27:13 PM

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on quality maintenance.



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