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Msg ID: 2757952 Rlc shutdown  +0/-6     
Author:Curious George
12/31/2022 1:39:16 PM
Could the faa close rlc down. This being there 3rd crash of the year I thought things where so much better there now that they raised the pier diem. And pay mileage


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Msg ID: 2757954 Rlc shutdown  +5/-1     
Author:Answer given
12/31/2022 1:58:51 PM

Reply to: 2757952
No. There is no magic number of crashes before the FAA takes action. Especially when the crash is outside of the control of the operator as in pilot error.
If anything RLC’s insurance company and customer pool will push any change in operations before the FAA.


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Msg ID: 2757964 Rlc shutdown  +14/-1     
Author:Utility guy
12/31/2022 4:16:44 PM

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Customers will drive change. They likely will loose some contracts due to their safety record. they will offer the few customers that stick with them rates no one else will match with single digit margins and they will struggle through that way for a few years, and either emege from the ashes, or sell out. Its no fun, but every major company has been through it at some point, and its often not within the control of the company, so try not to judge, at least until there is some data to evaluate.



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Msg ID: 2757968 “Customers will drive change” +13/-2     
Author:What a joke of a statement.
12/31/2022 7:12:57 PM

Reply to: 2757964

The customers are the problem. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. The oil company CEO's and safety people pontificate about Safety being priority one. They talk about wanting safe operators. Then they turn their procurement department vultures loose on the transportation companies and drive them to cut corners or be forced into bankruptcy. The operators who have robust training on both the ops and maintenance side simply cost more. You want to be safe? Pay it. Sadly they care more about their bottom line than they do their own people. They can say what they want, but to the oil companies, the only thing that is finite is the oil reserve. There Is an endless pool of people. You are replaceable in the oil companies business model. That won't change.



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Msg ID: 2757971 “Customers will drive change” +3/-2     
Author:GOM-"77-06"
12/31/2022 11:08:46 PM

Reply to: 2757968

Did 30 years, half in operational management, GOM. Five years wearing a suit and catering to celebs, politico and other idols in NYC. You are mere cattle. So was i!



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Msg ID: 2757988 “Customers will drive change” +0/-2     
Author:Suit wearing offshore helicopter manager
1/1/2023 10:31:28 AM

Reply to: 2757971

had to answer to celebrities, politicians and "idols", all in NYC



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Msg ID: 2757979 “Customers will drive change” +1/-1     
Author:him
1/1/2023 8:57:32 AM

Reply to: 2757968

somebody gets it.



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Msg ID: 2757980 “Customers will drive change” +4/-1     
Author:uh
1/1/2023 9:20:09 AM

Reply to: 2757968

RLC was considered a pretty safe operator up until a few weeks ago. The oil companies gets bids and make their choice. Nobody is "turned loose on" or forcing anybody to do anything. You can be certain the RLC bid was the lowest and everybody knows why. The offshore helicopter business doesn't change. 

You say operators must cut corners or go out of business and in the same breath you say there are operators that don't but cost more. Which is it?



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Msg ID: 2757981 LOL +0/-6     
Author:Really
1/1/2023 9:22:43 AM

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You don't get it? Should I get out the crayons, draw some stick figures and use smaller words?



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Msg ID: 2757982 LOL +3/-2     
Author:uh
1/1/2023 9:29:24 AM

Reply to: 2757981

I'm sorry but I have to inform you your post was a rambling mess that was contradictory and error filled, so unfortunately, we have no use for it at this time. Please try again later.



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Msg ID: 2757983 “Customers will drive change” +0/-3     
Author:area man surprised and angry
1/1/2023 9:40:56 AM

Reply to: 2757980

when a company chooses the cheapest option. If you want somebody to love you and care about you, get a dog, not a job. Cry harder about the RLC's and Westwinds being "forced" to run their business the way they do. 



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Msg ID: 2757997 “Customers will drive change” +0/-3     
Author:There you have it
1/1/2023 12:21:44 PM

Reply to: 2757980

The root cause of gom accidents is because the managers have to answer to celebrities in nyc 



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Msg ID: 2757999 “Customers will drive change” +0/-2     
Author:look out PHI and Era
1/1/2023 12:28:29 PM

Reply to: 2757968

 "procurement department vultures" are out in the parking lot



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Msg ID: 2757959 Rlc shutdown  +2/-2     
Author:huh?
12/31/2022 2:53:36 PM

Reply to: 2757952

What in the world does raising per diem and mileage have to do with their safety record?? 



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Msg ID: 2757960 Rlc shutdown  +7/-1     
Author:nothing
12/31/2022 2:55:41 PM

Reply to: 2757959

you can't possibly be that dense. FAA is not going to shut them down. 



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Msg ID: 2758159 A/C and people found +0/-1     
Author:Reporter
1/3/2023 9:05:41 PM

Reply to: 2758111

All four bodies recovered in Gulf of Mexico helicopter crash | AP News

 



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Msg ID: 2758272 Rlc shutdown  +1/-1     
Author:cheap
1/5/2023 5:48:31 PM

Reply to: 2757952

I wonder if a tiedown was left on but I dont know what the winds were that morning.



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