| Msg ID: 2756056 |
New CEO at AMC. When do they start? +0/-1
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| Author:Heard it was soon
12/12/2022 8:35:09 AM |
Expect some major changes soon if sounds like. |
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| Msg ID: 2756069 |
New CEO at AMC. When do they start? +16/-2
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| Author:olderendirt
12/12/2022 10:45:53 AM Reply to: 2756056 |
There is a great deal of institutional bureaucracy at AMC. Expecting 'major changes soon' is like expecting an aircraft carrier to do donuts in your yard. |
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| Msg ID: 2756164 |
New CEO at AMC. When do they start? +1/-0
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| Author:Well
12/13/2022 3:40:18 AM Reply to: 2756069 |
said! |
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| Msg ID: 2756083 |
New CEO at AMC. When do they start? +5/-1
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| Author:Rvrrat
12/12/2022 1:53:46 PM Reply to: 2756056 |
Not soon enough we all hope! And majority of the folks in Denver need to go, before the damage is too far gone. Sadly however, we may be past that. |
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| Msg ID: 2756119 |
New CEO at AMC. When do they start? +7/-0
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| Author:what's on my mind
12/12/2022 4:41:10 PM Reply to: 2756083 |
sinking ship, even the rats are clueless to leave... |
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| Msg ID: 2756128 |
New CEO at AMC. When do they start? +2/-2
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| Author:Six months at AMC
12/12/2022 5:09:29 PM Reply to: 2756119 |
no complaints. maintenance good, pay good, nobody bothers me. I was at PHI which was a joke. |
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| Msg ID: 2756133 |
Yup, overall not bad +1/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
12/12/2022 6:00:43 PM Reply to: 2756128 |
Until you realize just how many middle managers there are, the bonuses they get, how much random corporate spending waste there is. Oh, and the crappy EMS pay too (doesn't matter where you are unless you're at an IFR twin program). And COLA doesn't cover expensive areas too... |
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| Msg ID: 2756136 |
Yup, overall not bad +1/-0
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| Author:I don’t care
12/12/2022 6:15:53 PM Reply to: 2756133 |
how many middle managers there are because I've never heard from them. Oh you don't make much more flying an ifr twin but thanks for pretending you work there bro |
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| Msg ID: 2756137 |
Yup, overall not bad +1/-1
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| Author:Oh no!
12/12/2022 6:24:32 PM Reply to: 2756133 |
theres lots of middle managers and they get bonuses too lol you stupid idiot |
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| Msg ID: 2756146 |
Yup, overall not bad +1/-1
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| Author:Bonus
12/12/2022 8:22:01 PM Reply to: 2756137 |
Most Pilots earn as much or more if your pocking up extra shifts .. A lot of the Managers you talk about ,have gone back to flying the line. If you feel you are missing out , then go become a manger and have at it .. you may realize those bonuses don't add up to a whole lot after your salary. |
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| Msg ID: 2756155 |
Area Managers +0/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
12/12/2022 9:27:31 PM Reply to: 2756146 |
There aren't too many RAM/RADs... but there's a crap ton of Area, Marketing, and other managers all over the place. I've heard there are a bunch in Denver too. |
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| Msg ID: 2756180 |
AMC Area Manager Starting is $105k & 20% annual bonus +1/-0
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| Author:With NO management experience
12/13/2022 9:54:33 AM Reply to: 2756155 |
1 for every 3-5 bases...adds up. That's more than a 18 year line pilot. |
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| Msg ID: 2756186 |
AMC Area Manager Starting is $105k & 20% annual bonus +0/-0
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| Author:nice money
12/13/2022 10:20:53 AM Reply to: 2756180 |
good for them but it's in reality it's much less with more bases |
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| Msg ID: 2756210 |
AMC Area Manager Starting is $105k & 20% annual bonus +1/-0
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| Author:It's the worse job in the company
12/13/2022 2:20:11 PM Reply to: 2756186 |
Thankless and never ending. It's a crap job but if you get grounded and can't retire, it is an option. |
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| Msg ID: 2756214 |
AMC Area Manager Starting is $105k & 20% annual bonus +0/-0
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| Author:Yes but
12/13/2022 3:15:58 PM Reply to: 2756180 |
It's about the return on investment and the AM brings in the money for the company. |
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| Msg ID: 2756222 |
Area Managers make absolutely zero in revenue. Waste of money! (NT) +1/-0
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| Author:End them and free up $ for pay
12/13/2022 4:50:36 PM Reply to: 2756214 |
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| Msg ID: 2756225 |
Area Managers make absolutely zero in revenue. Waste of money! +0/-1
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| Author:neither do mechanics
12/13/2022 4:54:43 PM Reply to: 2756222 |
what should we do with them |
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| Msg ID: 2756226 |
Area Managers make absolutely zero in revenue. Waste of money! +1/-0
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| Author:Blind
12/13/2022 5:49:18 PM Reply to: 2756225 |
The mechanics have a direct effect on the money train. You can't fly without them. You can fly without the AM |
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| Msg ID: 2756228 |
Area Managers make absolutely zero in revenue. Waste of money! +0/-0
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| Author:you can fly without anybody but
12/13/2022 6:10:48 PM Reply to: 2756226 |
a pilot. for a while. |
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| Msg ID: 2756247 |
Wrong! Without area managers company still gets $. Without +0/-0
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| Author:mechanic and no aircraft they don't
12/14/2022 12:28:18 AM Reply to: 2756225 |
easy concept to know your place unless you are one of those managers |
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| Msg ID: 2756253 |
AMC Area Manager Starting is $105k & 20% annual bonus +0/-1
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| Author:I can’t
12/14/2022 6:44:21 AM Reply to: 2756180 |
imagine working management as a RAD. No clue how the successfu long-term one remembers all the baloney that goes along with the job. Dealing with it has to take a unique individual. I'll take a simple corporate job any day, or offshore, or utility, no matter the pay and bennies. That pay package had better include some for of internal stock option, if such exists in private companies. |
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| Msg ID: 2756274 |
AMC Area Manager Starting is $105k & 20% annual bonus +0/-0
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| Author:you sound like you probably could
12/14/2022 9:11:21 AM Reply to: 2756253 |
have your pick of "simple" corporate jobs whatever that it |
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| Msg ID: 2756209 |
Yup, overall not bad +0/-1
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| Author:Yea, how much
12/13/2022 2:17:50 PM Reply to: 2756137 |
You don't have a clue of what middle managers make do you? |
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| Msg ID: 2756248 |
$105k+20% with NO experience in aviation or medical! (NT) +0/-1
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| Author:That's what they get paid MINIMUM
12/14/2022 12:29:49 AM Reply to: 2756209 |
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| Msg ID: 2756254 |
$105k+20% with NO experience in aviation or medical! +1/-1
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| Author:And
12/14/2022 6:45:46 AM Reply to: 2756248 |
seems most are prior military with minimal civil time and little to no civil management experience. Common sense should rule but maybe not. |
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| Msg ID: 2756278 |
$105k+20% with NO experience in aviation or medical! +1/-1
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| Author:Mathwiz
12/14/2022 9:55:43 AM Reply to: 2756254 |
none of you seem to grasp the fundamental mathmatics required. Managers are required to coordinate efforts. The closer a person is to the bottom line, the more their contribution to revenue. The higher up the chain, the less they contribute as they touch more people but each touch is less; an inverted pyramid. At some level, the contribution becomes negligible...but, the pay received is high. So the question becomes, which level of management provides the least efficient contribution to revenue and thus profit. my guess, somewhere in the middle...VP, SVP, EVP.... just a guess. |
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| Msg ID: 2756279 |
$105k+20% with NO experience in aviation or medical! +0/-2
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| Author:lol
12/14/2022 10:09:36 AM Reply to: 2756278 |
yeah math |
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| Msg ID: 2756293 |
$105k+20% with NO experience in aviation or medical! +0/-1
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| Author:we just don’t understand
12/14/2022 2:05:08 PM Reply to: 2756278 |
"mathmatics" of the inverted pyramid lol |
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| Msg ID: 2756509 |
$105k+20% with NO experience in aviation or medical! +0/-1
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| Author:It
12/17/2022 5:42:52 PM Reply to: 2756278 |
takes a village. |
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