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Msg ID: 2755777 Clearance on request +0/-2     
Author:BigTex
12/7/2022 5:29:38 PM

Why does yellow & black insist on using an ATC phrase?



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Msg ID: 2755780 Clearance on request +4/-1     
Author:because
12/7/2022 5:37:15 PM

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it irritates you. any other traffic please advise, last call.



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Msg ID: 2755786 Clearance on request +1/-1     
Author:ATC
12/7/2022 5:59:25 PM

Reply to: 2755780

The person using it, may not even know what it represents.



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Msg ID: 2755790 Clearance on request +1/-1     
Author:BigTex
12/7/2022 6:36:41 PM

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It's true, it is irritating. Their GOM training program is top notch and I'm surprised their line Captains tolerate this.

Wouldnt it be cool if ATC replied "No it's not" when they call for clearance on request? 



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Msg ID: 2755793 Clearance on request +3/-1     
Author::-)
12/7/2022 7:55:22 PM

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Kills me to admit this, buuuuut this used to be the exact phraseology taught at Whiting Field (where Navy, Marines, and Coasties learn to fly helicopters) during the instrument syllabus. "South Whiting Clearance Delivery, Factoryhand 11, Spot X, Information X, IFR to wherever, Clearance on request." I know it's not correct. Just pointing out that's where it might have come from. I know because I was a student and later, an instructor there. I'm guessing it spread to your company via one of us. Sorry. Didn't no any better until I started flying more IFR in the civilian world.


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Msg ID: 2755798 Clearance on request +1/-1     
Author:BigTex
12/7/2022 9:40:31 PM

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Ahh that's interesting, thanks for the info.



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Msg ID: 2755842 Clearance on request +0/-1     
Author:yep, and it's pretty handy
12/8/2022 8:14:53 PM

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when you have 25 or 30 aircraft on IFR flight plans with the same ETD.  It allows Clearance delivery to set up a que with who's finished run-up and ready to taxi.  At least it was that way back in the days of paper and hand flying.



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Msg ID: 2756269 Clearance on request +0/-1     
Author:Would
12/14/2022 8:35:26 AM

Reply to: 2755777

you rather they start a new language?  



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